I accept your apology, but not your qualifications or back door vindications. And, Bob, he didn't "gotcha anybody!" First, just because someone else does something is not a vindication of doing something similar. (never have seen South Park). Second, one supposed act of disrespect, again, doesn't excuse any other acts of disrespect. Third, I don't buy that was I disrespectful of whomever or whatever in my message referring to Ben Stein. Of what or whom was I "disrespectful?" Not all people of science are Mengeles; not all people of science walk on the surface of the water! As an historian, who knows something more than a tad about the history of science, I'll stand by every word I said in that message. Oh, by the way, neither Stein nor I said "science equals Nazism." The Nazi T-4 plan was an application by "men of science," however perverted, of Herbert Spencer's social Darwinism, which, in turn, twisted Darwin's Theory of Evolution. But, you might also want to take a peek at Ulfried Gueter's The Professionalization of Psychology in Nazi Germany and Robert Lifton's, The Nazi Doctors, as well as the records of the medical trials of "men of science" at Nuremberg. Or, you might want to Google "Mississippi appendectomy." Off to my garden. We had winter on Thursday and summer hit on Friday.
Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier http://www.therandomthoughts.com Department of History http://www.therandomthoughts.edublogs.org Valdosta State University Valdosta, Georgia 31698 /\ /\ /\ /\ (229-333-5947) /^\\/ \/ \ /\/\__/\ \/\ / \/ \_ \/ / \/ /\/ \ /\ //\/\/ /\ \__/__/_/\_\ \_/__\ /\"If you want to climb mountains,\ /\ _ / \ don't practice on mole hills" - -----Original Message----- From: Mike Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu] Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:33 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Cc: Mike Palij Subject: RE: [tips] What A Day: Mystery, Redemption, Astrology, Astronomy, History, and Tragedy Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:09:03 -0700, Louis Schmier wrote: >Mike, New Yawker or otherwise, Chris, droll or otherwise to some, but >nevertheless still disrespectful. I'm sorry that you feel that way because I did not intend to be disrespectful and apologize to anyone to anyone who thought I was being disrespectful. But while we're on the topic of being disrespectful, Louis, I was wondering: how disrespectful was I? Consider the following: (1) South Park pokes fun at the Catholic Church implying that it is actually run by a giant Queen Spider (which leads to people pooping out of their mouths -- you have to see the episode if you don't understand) or (2) Your support of Ben Stein's "Science leads to Nazism"; see the following for the original Ben Stein qoute: http://www.mail-archive.com/t...@acsun.frostburg.edu/msg24782.html and Louis support of Ben Stein's position: http://www.mail-archive.com/t...@acsun.frostburg.edu/msg24785.html The rest of the thread can be found on the "alternate universe TiPS archive". So, was my level of apparent disrespect the same as the examples above, more than the examples above, or less than the examples above? And, no, you can't claim that you weren't being disrespectful in your support of Ben Stein's Science=Nazism position. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: lschm...@valdosta.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13368.9b8fe41d7a9a359029570f1d2ef42440&n=T&l=tips&o=1737 or send a blank email to leave-1737-13368.9b8fe41d7a9a359029570f1d2ef42...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=1739 or send a blank email to leave-1739-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu