I agree with everything Allen writes. I'd add only that I find it reassuring that Freud is being memorialized here as a writer of great literature, not necessarily of great science.
....Scott ________________________________________ From: Allen Esterson [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 3:35 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re:[tips] Freud's birthday today ?On 6 May 2010 David Hogberg quoted Garrison Keillor on Freud: >He went to medical school at the University of Vienna, and worked with Josef Breuer, who made a breakthrough discovery when he hypnotized a young woman who had been diagnosed with what was then called hysteria. When she was hypnotized, the woman talked freely, and she herself named it "the talking cure."< This "breakthrough discovery" is rather more controversial than Keillor indicates, and a considerable psychoanalytic mythology was built around the "cure" of "Anna O.". See my discussion of the case in answer to the last question in the following online Q&A (scroll down to "Q: Breuer's seminal case study - the story of Anna O…."): http://simplycharly.com/freud/allen_esterson_freud_interview.htm Keillor writes: >Freud adopted the talking cure and eventually realized that >this sort of talking could happen even without hypnosis. >Whether hypnotized or not, patients would discuss whatever >was going through their minds, and he would analyze their >words and decide what was causing their issues, usually >past experiences. Freud's early technique was rather more physician-led than this account suggests, as is apparent from his own words taken from *Studies on Hysteria* (1895): "…after we have laboriously forced some piece of knowledge on the patient…" "We need not be afraid of telling the patient what we think his next connection of the thought is going to be." "Even when everything is finished and the patient has been overborne by the force of logic…, when, I say, the patients themselves accept the fact that that they thought this or that, they often add: 'But I can't *remember* having thought it'." "The principal point is that I should guess the secret and tell it to the patient straight out." Keillor writes: >Most people will never read his books, but they >know about penis envy, the Oedipus complex, >phallic symbols, the id and superego… And most people know about horoscopes and the signs of the Zodiac… >And most people accept the basic idea that our minds >are capable of repressing traumatic experiences The fact that most people accept certain notions doesn't make them true. (See Richard J. McNally, *Remembering Trauma*, 2003.) >We encourage people who have undergone traumatic >experiences to discuss them… This was part of the store of common knowledge for hundreds of years before Freud: "Give sorrow words; the grief that does not speak Whispers the o'er-fraught heart and bids it break" (Shakespeare, Macbeth) >Many people casually acknowledge that the way they were >parented effects [sic] their own patterns of behavior later in life. It looks a bit different if we see what Freud actually thought determined the development of an individual's character. In relation to what he called the "Second phase of infantile masturbation" he wrote: "The [details of the] second phase of infantile sexual activity… leave behind the deepest (unconscious) impressions in the subject's memory, determine the development of his character, if he is to remain healthy, and the symptomatology of his neurosis, if he is to fall ill after puberty." (*Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality*, 1905) Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London [email protected] http://www.esterson.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Hogberg <[email protected]> Subject: Freud's birthday today Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 10:03:21 -0400 This thumbnail was in today's "The writer's almanac," Garrison Keillor It's the birthday of Sigmund Freud, (books by this author) born Sigismund Schlomo Freud in the town of Příbor, in what is now the Czech Republic (1856). His parents were Jewish, and his father was a wool merchant; they didn't have much money, but they wanted the best for their intelligent son. He went to medical school at the University of Vienna, and worked with Josef Breuer, who made a breakthrough discovery when he hypnotized a young woman who had been diagnosed with what was then called hysteria. When she was hypnotized, the woman talked freely, and she herself named it "the talking cure." Freud adopted the talking cure and eventually realized that this sort of talking could happen even without hypnosis. Whether hypnotized or not, patients would discuss whatever was going through their minds, and he would analyze their words and decide what was causing their issues, usually past experiences. Freud was particularly interested in dreams, childhood trauma, and sexual experiences as ways to understand the patient's unconscious motives and desires. Once it was refined, Freud's method of practice came to be known as psychoanalysis, and he ushered in a new era in psychology. And his books, with their heavy emphasis on sex, were very popular. These days, Freud has gone out of fashion, at least in the scientific and psychology communities. Freud considered himself a scientist. He said, "The poets and philosophers before me discovered the unconscious; what I discovered was the scientific method by which the unconscious can be studied." Freud's conclusions were always controversial, but by the mid-20th century, the idea that his work was actually science was becoming controversial as well. He did not, in fact, use the scientific method, in the sense that the claims of psychoanalysis can't be disproved — they aren't falsifiable. Today, there are only about 20,000 Americans in Freudian-style psychoanalysis, just over 1 percent of people in therapy. But whether or not he is taken seriously in psychology and scientific communities in the way he intended, there is no doubt that Freud's cultural influence is huge. Most people will never read his books, but they know about penis envy, the Oedipus complex, phallic symbols, the id and superego, and the famous "Freudian slip." And most people accept the basic idea that our minds are capable of repressing traumatic experiences or feelings, and that there is benefit in talking about them. We encourage people who have undergone traumatic experiences to discuss them, even if they have to get at painful feelings or facts that they have hidden from themselves — that is such a normal idea that it doesn't seem Freudian anymore. Many people casually acknowledge that the way they were parented effects their own patterns of behavior later in life — again, not going down the extreme road of Freud's Oedipus complexes, but the basic idea comes from him. And everyone seems to have an opinion about Freud, including some famous writers: John Irving said: "Sigmund Freud was a novelist with a scientific background. He just didn't know he was a novelist. All those damn psychiatrists after him, they didn't know he was a novelist either." W.H. Auden wrote a long poem called "In Memory of Sigmund Freud," which maybe best captures how deeply Freud and his ideas have permeated culture. He wrote: If some traces of the autocratic pose, the paternal strictness he distrusted, still clung to his utterance and features, it was a protective coloration for one who'd lived among enemies so long: if often he was wrong and, at times, absurd, to us he is no more a person now but a whole climate of opinion under whom we conduct our different lives: Like weather he can only hinder or help. -- David K. Hogberg, PhD Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Department of Psychological Science Albion College Albion MI 49224 Tel: 517/629-4834, Mobile: 517/262-1277 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. 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