If anyone from Arkansas had been consulted, they would have discovered two 
things: poultry trucks are open air cages and there is not enough room for the 
birds to turn around, much less fly.

Rick

Rick Froman
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On Aug 3, 2010, at 9:52 AM, "Mike Palij" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 06:19:49 -0700, Jonathan Mueller wrote:
> |To illustrate how even as adults we can struggle with some problems 
> |like conservation, I tell my students the story of following a truck.  
> |You are on the road and you find yourself behind a slow semi.  You 
> |notice that as the semi is approaching a bridge the driver pulls a 
> |baseball bat out of his cab and bangs on the side of his truck.  You 
> |think this is odd.  But you notice that he does this every time he 
> |comes to a bridge.  Now you are so curious you just have to find 
> |out why.  So, you follow the truck driver until he stops.  You go 
> |up to him and ask him why he was hitting his truck with a baseball bat.  
> |he says, "Well, you see, I am carrying a load of live birds in the back 
> |that weigh 8 tons.  And my truck weighs 8 tons.  The signs for the 
> |bridges say you can only weigh 8 tons going over them.  So, I bang 
> |on the side of my truck, the birds fly up in the air, and then my truck 
> |only weighs 8 tons."  I ask my class if the truck driver is right.
> 
> I feel like I'm entering a Monty Python sketch on European versus
> African sparrows but the examples used in the Mythbusters show
> had closed spaces, so, when a helicopter flew or birds beat their
> wings, the forces they generated were confined to the closed system
> of the container.  What happens to the weight of the container if it
> is an open system, that is, there are slats on the side of the container
> with the birds so that when they are in flight in the container, the force
> generated by their wings can be displaced out of the container?
> 
> That being said, I would make sure that I am about 200 feet away 
> from a truck like that described above going over a bridge with an
> 8 ton carrying capacity.
> 
> -Mike Palij
> New York University
> [email protected]
> 
> 
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