I'm not sure that I understand what you're asking.  Let me see
if I have this right:  a research project is (a) going to made into
a conference presentation and (b) has been submitted for 
publication.  Are you asking if this is an acceptable or ethical
thing to do?

Based on my experience, I believe that this is a fairly common 
pratice in both psychology and psychiatry.  To be clear:  the
presentation at the conference is based on the same research
as the manuscript submitted for publication but, in all likelihood,
they are not the same manuscript (i.e., limitations of time would
require the conference presentation to be much shorter -- it would
be likely that there would be a seperate paper/poster for this).

It seems to me that reasons for doing this include:

(1) Establishing priority:  presentations at a conference usually
occur in a shorter time frame than that for publication (publication
can take years -- I know first hand) and one does not want to
get "scooped" while waiting for publication.  Conference presentation
establishes when one's ideas and research was made public and
can help to address claims regarding who did a research project
first (e.g., for many years people referred to the Peterson & Peterson
memory distractor task until it was pointed out that Brown done
a similar study a year previously but published the results in a 
British journal -- it took some time for American psychologists to
get around to calling it the Brown-Peterson procedure).

(2)  Nonpublication of research:  just because a manuscript has been
submitted for publication, there is no guarantee that it will be accepted
for publication or published anywhere (again, I know from first hand
experience).  However, conference presentations identify that the
research was indeed publicly presented.  Conference programs that
include the abstract of the presentations (e.g., the Eastern Psychological
[EPA] Association, the Psychonomics Society, etc.) provide a record of
the presentation and, in some cases, if it was a paper presentation,
the original paper may have been put into a publicly accessible archive
(e.g., I made a 1980 EPA presentation on research using a bilingual
lexical decision task which I did not submit for publication;  ERIC,
however, requested a copy of the paper and I provided them a copy
which is available through www.eric.ed.gov)

(3) Grant funded research:  it has also been my experience that various
grant funding agencies like to see presentations of the work that they fund.
NIMH had in the past provided (a) specific meetings for such funded
research and (b) published the papers from such meetings as preliminary
reports in journals such as Psychopharmacology Bulletin).  Again, the
programs for certain conference/meetings will contain the abstract of the
presentation and this will serve as evidence that one is being productive
with the research funding.  One organization that does this annually is
the College on Problems of Drug Dependence (CPDD) which makes
their programs and abstract available to the public; see:
http://www.cpdd.vcu.edu/Pages/Meetings/MeetProgAbSearchAll.html
However, the expectation is that presentations made a meetings like
CPDD will eventually make their way into a peer-reviewed journal
and not just the meeting's program and the annual report to the funder.

So, perhaps you can be clearer on the objection.

-Mike Palij
New York University
[email protected]


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On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:30:25 -0700, wrote:
I hope Miguel is reading messages for this list...but others also, please chime 
in. It's at least partly an ethics issue.

I have a student who is going through the grad school application process. She 
worked with a professor (not me) on a project who submitted the work as a 
manuscript which is currently under review. This professor has also submitted 
(subsequently) a conference presentation with almost the same exact title (one 
word was swapped out for a synonym). The content appears to be the same.

I think this is flagrant double-dipping to pad a vita and I'm afraid it might 
backfire on her if she lists both on her vita. I believe that for students who 
don't have much on their CV, that such similar titles will immediately stand 
out as double-dipping. I an leaning towards advising her that she should just 
list the conference, because it is a known acceptance, and hold off on the 
article under review...and maybe add it only after it is accepted for 
publication. Or should she list both?

Note that she had no control over any of these events.

Any thoughts on this?

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