I do not now, nor did I ever, know the location of the treat. 

Robin Abrahams

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--- On Fri, 8/27/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [tips] Article on Marc Hauser's lab
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 6:24 PM

On 27 Aug 2010 at 16:00, Robin Abrahams wrote:

> TIPSters--
> 
> This is my first piece for Salon, about the experiments at Marc Hauser's 
> Canine Cognition Lab: 
> 
> http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/27/canine_cognition_lab_marc_hauser

Interesting piece, Robin! Apropos of Paul Bernhard's comment 
on scepticism about these studies,  I have a question. You were 
holding Milo back and then you released him. Did you know on 
each trial which bucket held the treat?

True, it didn't matter as Milo didn't solve the problem anyway. 
But if he had, it might have been because he was able to use 
the  experimenter-arrranged cue. Or you could have 
inadvertently provided a physical cue yourself. Given all the 
trouble over the studies purporting to show language use in 
primates, one would think they would taken elementary 
precautions to avoid a Clever Hans effect. All they had to do 
was to make sure you didn't know where the treat was.

Did you?

Stephen
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