Michael ... Whooo ... hold on there partn'r. The fact that Mike used 'quotes' means the word meaning is altered - irony is one of the possibilities, there are many other. Second, this is a discussion group, NOT a library database. When I want a reference, I go to PsychArticles. Discussion groups are for discussions. Daryl Bem, to his students, once made a distinction between the context of discovery and the context of justification. We all know how to justify claims, to others, with statistics and references. But where do ideas come from originally? From all over the place - articles, casual observations, discussions ... and yes, even from perceptions and intuitions, and if a few come in the dead of night, so what? Good to re-read Skinner's thoughts on where his ideas came from. Guaranteed - if we were to insist that every potentially factual claim sans references be stifled, discussion would immediately grind to a halt.
Once we get ideas, we do research, and then we convince ourselves of a certain state of affairs. Once we convince ourselves, we try to convince others via articles with references and statistics. And others - skeptical as we all are - their job is to entertain alternate explanations. So let's cast a wide net here. I suspect the bottom line on all this is that we have a love/hate relationship with any hint of cultural differences. We say we want to study them, but are very selective about which ones we study - and that's cool as long as we recognize that. I forgot the original thread here - wasn't it about cultural differences in provocative dressing? Ok, one of the things that I did in my youth was migrant farm work, and I spent time among a variety of racial/cultural groups, in the trenches of life no less. I can assure you that group differences are real and they exist. Some we like talking about and some we do not, and maybe the hint of talking about stereotypes is aversive. Totally understand that, it's always good to be aware of the sensitivities and triggers of other people when we write. But I have been, and will continue to be, in favor of casting as wide a net as possible and letting discussions soar. And ad hominem arguments we should try to stifle. My $.02 ========================== John W. Kulig Professor of Psychology Plymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 ========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Palij" <[email protected]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]> Cc: "Mike Palij" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:52:00 AM Subject: Re: [tips] Professor fired. On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:14:54 -0700, Michael Smith wrote: >Being the x-cultural dude Michael S. should be able to point me in the >right direction here. No disrespect to Michael Sylvester but I don't think you should hold your breath waiting for a response. >Wasn't it a recognized 'fact' a while ago (70's?) I really hope that you do not do this type of thing in you classes. "Facts" do not come out of nowhere. Scientific facts come to us from published sources which you are obliged to cite and provide references to. Since you use quote marks around fact, one is left with the impression that you are being ironic and that you are not really referring to a real fact. If you are referring to a fact, provide a source. If you are not referring to a source, what are you relying upon? Your perception of what you think people believed? Voices in your head? Heavenly commandments given to you while sleeping in the dead of night? Stop being so lazy. If you make an assertion and try to pass it off as a "fact", provide a source. I ask no less of my students. Oh, since both Michael Sylvester and Michael Smith can both be referred to a Michael S, stop being so lazy and be spell out the name. It'll help to identify when you'll be speaking about yourself in the third person. -Mike Palij New York University [email protected] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66454&n=T&l=tips&o=5050 or send a blank email to leave-5050-13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=5051 or send a blank email to leave-5051-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
