Me too. In fact what has happened is that it's bleeding over into other plural nouns, and I'm starting to inadvertently say things like "the faculty are..." -- people are looking at me funny.
m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology College of Arts & Sciences Baker University -- ________________________________ From: Steven Specht [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:22 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Data usage I'm with you both! ======================================================== Steven M. Specht, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology Department of Psychology Utica College Utica, NY 13502 (315) 792-3171 monkeybrain-collagist.blogspot.com<http://monkeybrain-collagist.blogspot.com> "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." Martin Luther King Jr. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Pollak, Edward wrote: Claudia Stanny wrote: "Speaking for myself, reading "the data is" makes me cringe, grind my teeth, and reach for a very sharp red pencil! ......... When I read "data" a part of me always substitutes words like numbers, observations, findings." Claudia, is it possible that you are a long lost sister of mine? Our grammatical sensitivities seem to be identical.. Let's check this hypothesis of grammatical kinship with one more pet peeve: It annoys me no end when someone says e.g., "less people buy American-made cars." To my mind, it should be "fewer people." If the referent occurs in discrete units (e.g., people, cars, trees, doillars, etc.) you use the adjective "fewer." But if the referent is a more general concept or continuous, less discrete you use the word (water, forest, money) "less." So there are fewer trees and there may be less forested land. There are more people chasing fewer dollars but more people chasing less capital. This seems obvious to me but it is so often breached that I'm beginning to question myself. It's so common to have a colleague say "I have less students in my class this semester." Or a newscaster says "The U.S. sold less cars this year." This jars my grammatical sensibilities. So.............. am I the only one who gets irked by this issue? Surely my purported grammatical soul mate, Claudia must have the same reaction. Ed Edward I. Pollak, Ph.D. Department of Psychology West Chester University of Pennsylvania Office hours: Mondays noon-2 & 3-4; Tuesdays & Thursdays 8-9:15 & 12:30-2 http://home.comcast.net/~epollak/home.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Husband, father, grandfather, biopsychologist, & bluegrass fiddler...... in approximate order of importance. From: Claudia Stanny <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Speaking for myself, reading "the data is" makes me cringe, grind my teeth, and reach for a very sharp red pencil! :-) [just recently finished editing a slew of "data .... is" constructions to "data .... are" in a colleague's prose] When I read "data" a part of me always substitutes words like numbers, observations, findings. All plural (so far). --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13522.468cbac056133a996283cca7e2976336&n=T&l=tips&o=8962 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-8962-13522.468cbac056133a996283cca7e2976...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-8962-13522.468cbac056133a996283cca7e2976...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c90e1&n=T&l=tips&o=8970 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-8970-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-8970-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by Baker University ("BU") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=8972 or send a blank email to leave-8972-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
