I concur with Marc's comments. There is a special section on NHST vs Bayesian in May 2011 Perspectives on Psych Science.
Interestingly I tried in a 2000 paper to argue that power in my study was sufficiently high (I forgot the specific estimate) that I SHOULD have readily rejected Null in a series of false consensus comparisons (estimates of prevalence of various traits from those with the trait vs estimates from those without the trait) yet I did not, therefore the effect was not present under the conditions of my study. I argued unsuccessfully. They recommended I combine all the comparisons into a meta-analysis, which I did and rejected null p = .04. I wish I had been more expert in Bayesian thinking to approach this issue differently at the time. Hey, how about those Bruins!! At the heart of real Boston sports fan are the Bruins, not the Celts or Pats .... BSox a close second. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular -----Original Message----- From: Marc Carter <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:18:45 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)<[email protected]> Reply-To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]>Subject: RE: [tips] Null hypothesis I teach my students there are two possible outcomes to a null hypothesis test: reject or fail to reject. That said, if you have power in the area of .99, then you might have good reason to believe the null is true. But you still don't "accept" it. Bayesians, as I am learning, might have a whole different take on it, though... m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts & Sciences Baker University -- ________________________________ From: michael sylvester [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:42 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Null hypothesis True or False One never accepts the Null hypothesis but only fails to reject the Null hypothesis. Michael --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c90e1&n=T&l=tips&o=11017 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-11017-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-11017-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by Baker University ("BU") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66454&n=T&l=tips&o=11019 or send a blank email to leave-11019-13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=11023 or send a blank email to leave-11023-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
