That youtube link is the funniest/saddest thing I've heard all day. A don't-miss-it. Beth Benoit
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Wuensch, Karl L <[email protected]> wrote: > No, but if asked which is smaller, 9.7% or 10%, some would have > trouble. Several of these students told me they expect to get a doctorate > in clinical psychology and earn over $100K annually after they do. They > may well end up working for Verizon. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN9LZ3ojnxY > > Cheers, > > Karl L. Wuensch > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Palij [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 7:24 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Cc: Michael Palij > Subject: Re: [tips] Is p < .05 ? > > Do they have the same problem if you restate it in terms of percentages? > > So, if p= 5%, circle which of the following is smaller: > > a) 1% > b) 10% > c) 3% > d) 6% > > If they can't do this, then your students in are in real trouble. > Then again, if you re-frame it into: > > If cost = $5, circle which of the following is smaller: > > a) $1 > b) $10 > c) $3 > d) $6 > > If they can't do this, then I have some investments I'd like to talk to > them about. > > -Mike Palij > New York University > [email protected] > > > ----------------- Original Message ---------------- On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 > 15:11:29 -0700, Beth Benoit wrote: > > Karl, > Is it possible they're having trouble with the < vs. the >? > > I'd be willing to bet that most Americans - no, slash that - most > *people* struggle > with what those two signs represent. I know, it "ain't rocket science," > but I suspect a lot of people never had that explained to them. > > *Please* say that's what it really is. ;-) > > Beth Benoit > Granite State College > Plymouth State University > New Hampshire > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Wuensch, Karl L <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am not the greatest fan of NHST, but do my duty to teach it. > > For a good while now I have been disturbed that a substantial > > proportion of my undergraduate students never figure out how to decide > > whether or not a test is significant. I tried stressing that p is a > > measure of the goodness of fit between the data and the null, that p > > is like the strength of evidence in support of the accused null > defendant in statistical court, and so on. > > Nothing seemed to help much. > > > > Now one of my teaching assistants has discovered why. Given > > two numbers, these students are unable to identify which is smaller. > > No, I am not kidding. Yes, this involves numbers between 0 and 1. My > > TA spend half an hour trying to teach them how to tell which is the > > smaller of two numbers, without great success. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13060.c78b93d4d09ef6235e9d494b3534420e&n=T&l=tips&o=20772 > or send a blank email to > leave-20772-13060.c78b93d4d09ef6235e9d494b35344...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13105.b9b37cdd198e940b73969ea6ba7aaf72&n=T&l=tips&o=20774 > or send a blank email to > leave-20774-13105.b9b37cdd198e940b73969ea6ba7aa...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=20776 or send a blank email to leave-20776-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
