On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:58:08 -0700, Jim Clark wrote:
>Hi
>
>Looking more closely, I believe the 2012 column may displaced upwards
>by a row starting with the Jewish row.  The value of 18% should be on
>the Muslim row and so on.  Then the figures generally correspond to
>2012.  See below (if formatting works ok!).
>
>Barack Obama
>                        2010          2012
>Protestant           26              28
>Catholic                 4                5
>Mormon                 0                0
>Jewish                   0              18
>Muslim                  17             10
>Other religion         8               2
>No religion              2             35
>Don*t know           41               2
>No Answer             1             28
>
>So perhaps we do not know the Jewish figure and the No Answer is bogus
>(perhaps the Protestant repeated??).

I've put the responses to the above question into Excel and hopefully
the formatting will be maintained:

  * ** ** Religion***

* **2010 ** ***

* **2012**a***

* **2012**b***

* **Protestant ** ***

* **26 ** ***

* **28 ** ***

* **28 ** ***

* **Catholic ** ***

* **4 ** ***

* **5 ** ***

* **5 ** ***

* **Mormon ** ***

* **0 ** ***

* **0 ** ***

* **0 ** ***

* **Jewish ** ***

* **0 ** ***

* **18 ** ***

*0***

* **Muslim ** ***

* **17 ** ***

* **10 ** ***

* **18 ** ***

* **Some other religion ** ***

* **8 ** ***

* **2 ** ***

* **10 ** ***

* **No religion ** ***

* **2 ** ***

* **35 ** ***

* **2 ** ***

* **Don’t know ** ***

* **41 ** ***

* **2 ** ***

* **35 ** ***

* **Refused/Not Answered ** ***

* **1 ** ***

* **28 ** ***

* **2 ** ***

*Sum***

*99.00***

*128.00***

*100.00***


I think that Jim is right and that there should be a zero for
Jewish and 18% for Muslim.  If the original table was created in
Excel and if the numbers for 2012a copied from another
Excel sheet but with the figure for Muslim missing, then
if the list of varlues is smaller (8 levels) than cells (9 cells),
then the list repeats itself (I've had this problem in making
up class rosters). If zero is entered for Muslim and push
the rest of the value down the rows below, as in 2012b,
the number work out.

Good catch.

-Mike Palij
New York University
[email protected]

>>> "Jim Clark" <[email protected]> 28-Oct-12 10:51:27 AM >>>
Hi

The religion figures for 2012 are messed up.  The figures for 2012 add
up to more than 100%, and there is no way that you would have 2% say No
Religion in 2010 and 35% in 2012, with a reverse switch for Don't Know.
If people were to believe the 2012 No Religion figure, it would spell
disaster for Obama given the animus toward non-religious people in the
USA.  And the figures for Jewish and No Answer increased markedly
between 2010 and 2012.  So something is wrong, but not clear where.

Take care
Jim


James M. Clark
Professor & Chair of Psychology
204-786-9757
204-774-4134 Fax
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>>> Michael Palij <[email protected]> 28-Oct-12 7:53:38 AM >>>
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:48:54 -0500, Rick Froman wrote:
>
>My favorite result from this poll:
>
>In answer to the question, "Do you happen to know the religion
>of each of the following people?"
>
>While fully 2/3 knew that Mitt Romney was a Mormon (and the
>majority of the rest said they didn't know his religion), for Barack
Obama,
>28% said Protestant and 10% said Muslim. But the most shocking result
>was the 18% (almost 1 in 5) who said he was Jewish.

Well, he *does* look Jewish if you're referring to Ethiopian Jews.
For background on Ethiopian Jews, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel
For images of Ethiopian Jews, see:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&cr=&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&q=%22ethiopian%20jews%22&sa=N&tab=wi&authuser=0&ei=7CSNUPy0GKPm0gGs24HoDw&biw=1280&bih=806&sei=wCWNULSgAa600QG23oBA


It's harder to make an argument that he is a Kenyan Jew though; see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Kenya
And compare the images for Kenyan Jews:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&cr=&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&q=%22kenyan%20jews%22&sa=N&tab=wi&authuser=0&ei=7iWNUMX-N-2F0QHr9YGABQ&biw=1280&bih=806&sei=DCaNUK2FJ4rk0QGl-4CYBQ


Of course, this naturally leads to a particular question:
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/14365/is-obama-circumcised

;-)

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