On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 05:31:46 -0800, Stephen Black wrote:
On 8 Dec 2012 at 10:08, Mike Palij wrote:

To increase the educational value of this topic, here are additional
facts/factoids:
http://www.livescience.com/21434-breast-facts-boobs-sexuality.html

The thing it takes to bring me out of hibernation:

Boy, the things that make one respond to a Stephen Black post.

The slide show has its history wrong. Forget American Mary
Phelps-Jacobs.  Two words: Otto Titzling.

Given Professor Black's history of posts on Tips, it is not always clear
when he is serious or joking, serious about facts or joking about facts,
thinking that some statement is a fact when in fact it is a joke, and so on.
Case in point, see, for example:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg28190.html
Prof. Black was gushing about the possibility of a movie being made
about H.M. in which Brenda Milner, one of Canada's most famous
people (or at least psychologist), would be featured.  Would Nicole
Kidman play Milner or Kate Winslet?  Turns out that the planned film
(which has not yet been made) was to be based on Suzanne Corkin's
book on H.M.; see:
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/One-Of-History-s-Most-Famous-Brains-Goes-To-The-Movies-11877.html
and
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117999537?refCatId=13
Where Prof. Black got the idea that Milner was involved is/was a
mystery (nor is it clear why he though Rudin directed "No Country
for Old Men" when it was the Coen brothers who directed it).
For the Corkin's soon to be published book on H.M., see:
http://www.amazon.com/Permanent-Present-Tense-Unforgettable-Amnesic/dp/0465031595/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1355069642&sr=1-1&keywords=suzanne+corkin

So, when Prof. Black speaks, it is not always clear what he means.
Especially if he leaves out emoticons.

The slide show has its history wrong. Forget American Mary
Phelps-Jacobs.  Two words: Otto Titzling.

Otto Titzling is a fictional character in the novel "Bust-Up"; see the description
on Amazon, in particular, read the first reader's comments; see:
http://www.amazon.com/Bust-up-uplifting-tale-Titzling-development/dp/0131087614/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1355059541&sr=1-1&keywords=Titzling

Is Prof Black being serious or is he joking?  I see no ;-)

Also, read the Wikipedia entry on Titzling; see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Titzling

Quoting from the entry:
|Otto Titzling is a fictional character who is apocryphally described as
|the inventor of the brassiere in a book Bust Up: The Uplifting Tale of
|Otto Titzling, published by Macdonald in London in 1971 and by
|Prentice-Hall in the USA.

And Snopes.com:
http://www.snopes.com/business/origins/bra.asp

Snopes provided some other possible candidates which might be considered.

I leave it as an exercise for the reader to discover how the current
vulgar term for these, um, items derives from the eponymous Otto.

So, is Prof Black joking about Titzling being the originator of the bra
or is he confused and actually thinks that Titzling is originator?

http://snipurl.com/25tl60g
(an authortative reference which would satisfy even Allen Esterson)

Again, citing the Wikipedia entry:
|the 1988 movie Beaches features a song by this name sung by Bette Midler,

And if that's not convincing enough, here's the original source:
http://snipurl.com/25tl908

See the Amazon link above.

Now ask me about the inventor of the flush toilet.

Quoting from the Titzling entry on Wikipedia:
|A similar situation exists with Thomas Crapper, who was a real-life plumber
|but did not invent the flush toilet.

Who did invent the flush toilet? This is kinda like asking who invented baseball
(anyone who watched the Ken Burn's documentary on baseball will know what
I mean).  To better understand this situation, consider the history of the
flush toilet see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flush_toilet#History

A free roll of TP to the first person who can guess when the earliest flush toilet
was used without looking at the Wikipedia entry or other sources.

-Mike Palij
New York University
[email protected]

P.S. In case Prof. Black is joking, allow me to laugh "Ha-Ha-Ha". Otherwise, so it goes.

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