This actually came at a good time. I am introducing my Brain and Behavior students to the concept of critical thinking. I was able to mention this article because, although it sounds repulsive, as Beth notes, many people are desperate for a cure--especially c. diff sufferers (a number that will likely grow), and may in fact hold promise. I was able to contrast this with why the Willowbrook study was unethical along with suggestions that we look at what we find online (e.g., peroxide drips or urine therapy) with a very critical--but unbiased eye. Without passing any sort of judgment on an article that I have not fully read, it provided a great example for critical thinking. Carol
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Mike Palij <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Beth, > > *Mea Culpa mode on* > I want to say to Beth and anyone else that I may have offended > with my post on "Taking S#!t" from others, I am sincerely sorry > that I have offended you and will endeavor in the future to more > tightly monitor my behavior/writing and edit out anything that > anyone could possibly find offensive. I hope that you can > find it within yourselves to accept my apologies. > I would just like to note that the main point of the post was that > "Taking S#!t" from others appears to be a good thing though > some people might find "Taking S#!t" offensive and/or juvenile. > In which case, don't take any s#!t from anyone. > *Mea Culpa mode off* > > So, I think I will go away now, pick up a copy of one of Albert Ellis' > books and try to find out why I am responsible for other people's > feeling and how to deal with folks who need a humor implant. > > -Mike Palij > New York University > [email protected] > > P.S. To Prof. Sylvester: life is unfair, and then you live in > Daytona Beach. > > > -------------- Original Message --------- On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:12:48 > -0800, Beth Benoit wrote: > > Mike, > I know it's pretty hard to resist the temptation to make scatological jokes > about this, but believe me, people with severe Crohn's and ulcerative > colitis who are undergoing this treatment get very tired of it. Also, you > misread the cause of the illness: it's not always a result of taking > antibiotics but from *Clostridium difficile* infections that aren't cured > by antibiotics. If you are terribly sick all the time, wasting away, > occasionally having "accidents" in public and feel you'd rather die than > continue to live like that, you'll try anything rather than endure a > helpless and hopeless chronic inflammatory disease. As disgusting as it > may sound to the uninitiated, it's beginning to get a decent track record, > as the article stated. > Proctologists and gastroenterologists endure a lifetime of childish jokes > like this, but point out that the gut is a fascinating thing to study and > marvel at it. > > I suggest that on a professional website like ours, we don't need to make > juvenile jokes about this, and might consider empathy for people who will > potentially profit from this treatment. > > Beth Benoit > Granite State College > Plymouth State University > New Hampshire > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Mike Palij <[email protected]> wrote: > > Some new medical research shows that for people with gastrointestinal >> illness arising from the use of antibiotics appear to do much better after >> a >> "fecal transplant". >> >> I kid you not. >> >> The NY Times has an article that provides a popular media account of >> the research and can be accessed here: >> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/****01/17/health/disgusting-maybe-****<http://www.nytimes.com/2013/**01/17/health/disgusting-maybe-**> >> but-treatment-works-study-****finds.html?_r=0&pagewanted=**all< >> http://www.nytimes.com/**2013/01/17/health/disgusting-** >> maybe-but-treatment-works-**study-finds.html?_r=0&**pagewanted=all<http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/health/disgusting-maybe-but-treatment-works-study-finds.html?_r=0&pagewanted=all> >> > >> >> There are various ways that the "transplant" can be done, including an >> old Chinese method. All I'm saying is that at lunch, avoid the yellow >> soup and the chocolate milk. >> >> The research article was published in the New England Journal of Medicine >> and the publisher has made access to the article free; see: >> http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/****10.1056/NEJMoa1205037<http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/**10.1056/NEJMoa1205037> >> <http://**www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/**NEJMoa1205037<http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa1205037> >> > >> >> As with most medical procedures, don't try this at home unless you're >> under medical supervision. >> >> -Mike Palij >> New York University >> [email protected] >> >> P.S. For some reason this reminds me of the British movie "Layer Cake" >> in which Daniel Craig starred before he became the new James Bond. >> There's a scene between Craig and Michael Gambon (who played >> Dumbledore in the Harry Potter movies) where Gambon explain the >> facts of life to Craig (well, the facts of life as a senior gangster see >> them >> and tries to impress them into a younger gangster). Recent Ph.D.s >> desiring >> an academic career might benefit from viewing this scene (the movie >> is actually quite good for a British crime/drug deal gone wrong genre >> piece). >> > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. > To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/**u?id=177920.** > a45340211ac7929163a02162444433**41&n=T&l=tips&o=23114<http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=177920.a45340211ac7929163a0216244443341&n=T&l=tips&o=23114> > or send a blank email to leave-23114-177920.** > a45340211ac7929163a02162444433**[email protected]<leave-23114-177920.a45340211ac7929163a0216244443...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> > -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. 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