On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:30:06 -0800, Michael Britt wrote:
You make some excellent points Paul.  As always with technology,
we must separate the "what might be cool/fun" from the "what is
worth the time to do".  In reflecting on this project I'll say that I
learned the most from doing two things:
a) listening to and watching Skinner
b) editing the audio from these interviews down to the essential
few minutes where Skinner expresses his ideas best

I have a suggestion that might make such an assignment more
realistic and help students to develop skills that are usable in
the real world.  For an assignment on Skinner, take a class
and randomly assign them into one of three groups:

(1) Try to provide a balanced perspective of Skinner's work
and writings that balance what could be called his "pro-humanist"
and "anti-humanist" tendencies.

(2) Locate and present materials that support the assertion that
Skinner was a fearless pro-humanist and should not be viewed
as an anti-humanist or worse.

(3) Locate and present materials that support the assertion that
Skinner's work and writing promoted an agenda that (a) supported
the established power structure and (b) provided tools for the
"treatment" of "non-conformists/miscreants".  One such source is
the movie version of Anthony Burgess' "A Clockwork Orange"
which, through historical accident, is associated with Skinner's
"Beyond Freedom and Dignity". For example, see Burgess'
comments in the New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/06/04/120604fa_fact_burgess
Quoting from the article, Burgess says:
|What the writer was trying to say was that it is better to be
|bad of one's free will than to be good through scientific
|brainwashing. B. F. Skinner's book "Beyond Freedom and
|Dignity" came out at the very time that "A Clockwork Orange"
|first appeared on the screen, ready to demonstrate the advantages
|of what we may call beneficent brainwashing. Given the right
|positive inducements, Skinner argues, we shall all become
|better citizens, submissive to a state that has the good of the
|community at heart. That the writer considers any kind of
|conditioning wrong must be accounted, he supposes, to the
|strength of Catholic tradition in which he was reared.

The key point of this exercise is to help students to develop the
ability to present or "spin" a situation to achieve a particular effect
in the reader/listener.  In real life, the manner of presentation is
either implicit (e.g., when a person argues for a particular position)
or explicit (e.g., the producers and directors of the programs on
the Fox News channel probably systematically emphasize and
frame stories very differently from, say, the producers and directors
of the PBS program "Frontline").  In real life, the students supervisors
and bosses will want to have a "particular" view of a person or an
event and, if the student wants to keep his/her job, should know
how to comply.

Back when I was in Catholic boys high school, I was in the debate
club for a while and there I learned that one should (a) know all of
the facts, interpretations, and implications of different positions, and
(b) be able to argue EITHER position because one would never
know which side of a position one would have to defend (which has
the corollary "Never ask a question that you don't know the answer to).
The old PBS TV program "The Advocates" provided a forum showing
how reasoned debate could be conducted as well as providing models
of how to be pro- or con- an issue.  For those who are unfamiliar with
The Advocates", some of their episodes can be accessed here:
http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog?f[pbcore_pbcoreTitle_series_s][]=Advocates
Unfortunately, there were no episodes involving Skinner though there
is one with Thomas Szasz arguing about the insanity defense; see:
http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog?f[pbcore_pbcoreTitle_series_s][]=Advocates&f[person_cv][]=Szasz%2C+Thomas
There is a couple of episodes with "Everyone's Favorite Supreme Court
Justice" Antonin Scalia, of course, pre-Supreme; see:
http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog?f[pbcore_pbcoreTitle_series_s][]=Advocates&f[person_cv][]=Scalia%2C+Antonin
NOTE: Michael Dukakis often served as the moderator but this was before
he ran for President.

However, one can see Skinner in what might charitably called a "debate"
(another way to characterize it is "A Couple of Privileged White Guys
Sitting Around Talking") on William Buckley's "Firing Line" program.
DVDs are available from various sources but here is Tower.com's (yes,
there are still around) link:
http://www.tower.com/firing-line-with-william-f-buckley-jr-b-f-skinner-dvd/wapi/117071230
Skinner was on at least one other time on "Firing Line".  The shows may
also be available from Utube and other sources.

In summary, what one might consider to be the essential B.F. Skinner
might be importantly influenced by the "eye of the beholder".  Humans
tend to be complex and contradictory beings and no one should judge
a man (or people) by their cover.

-Mike Palij
New York University
[email protected]

P.S. Hey Britt, were you at EPA?



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