Mike P wrote:    I do believe 26 children and adults died that day...

Actually it was 28.

On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:21 PM, "Mike Palij" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:37:48 -0700, Beth Benoit wrote:
>> Sadly, here's what may be the latest in the conspiracy theorist scenario -
>> this from a tenured  professor at a taxpayer-funded university, Florida
>> Atlantic University:
>> http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/15/newtown-harassed-by-conspiracy-theorists/?hpt=ac_t5
> 
> You know, when I want good factual information, Anderson Cooper is
> not the first source I think of.  I mean, I enjoy seeing Kathy Griffith try
> to have sex with him on international TV on New Years Eve (and his
> coyish evasions) but he is not what I would call a hard news kind of
> guy.
> 
> That being said, there is the issue of what the hell is James Tracy doing.
> It would be helpful to get some information about him that will provide
> some insight and isn't put out to pander for ratings.
> 
> First, here's Tracy's faculty webpage:
> http://www.fau.edu/scms/tracy.php
> Nothing obviously crazy here though I'd admit that he seems to have
> some odd interests in the field of communication but, what the hell,
> I've know academics who spent most of their time studying earthworms.
> 
> Second, he teaches a course on the "Culture of Conspiracy" and one
> can access his syllabus from the FAU website here:
> www.fau.edu/academic/registrar/UUPCinfo/...12/MMC4643syll.doc
> 
> Here's the course description:
> 
> |COURSE DESCRIPTION
> |Whether grounded in fact, delusion, or a combination thereof,
> |"conspiracy theories" are prevalent element of public discourse.
> |Such narratives often serve to demarcate official and alternate
> |interpretations and rationales for momentous public events--what
> |scholar Peter Dale Scott terms "deep events"--political assassinations,
> |terror attacks, economic crises, and preludes to war. These mediated
> |narratives further illuminate the discursive hegemony playing out in the
> |public realm between dominant political and cultural institutions, such
> |as commercial news media, and the intelligence gathering collectives
> |of internet-powered citizen journalists and social movements. Culture
> |of Conspiracy provides a novel examination of how and why certain
> |historical and current events have been reinterpreted, and what this
> |suggests for national and international journalism and discourse on
> |the political.
> 
> Okay, it's a little weird but then again I'm not in communications and
> it may make more sense then a course on post-modern theory.
> Cleary, Tracy takes conspiracy theories seriously but whether
> he is delusional or holds irrational beliefs does not seem evident.
> I suggest that one use the "Bem Standard", that is, if a world famous
> social psychologist can seriously believe in PSI and paranormal
> phenomena at an Ivy League school, then one needs to ask whether
> another academic's beliefs and interest as crazy/weird/out of touch
> with reality as is Bem. YMMV.
> 
> Third, apparently people got really excited when he wrote some things
> on his blog.  It would be useful to read what he wrote.  After a little
> search, I found his blog:
> http://memoryholeblog.com/
> 
> Now, to tell the truth, I have no interest in reading what Tracy has
> written.  The Newtown massacre is not something that I want to get
> into an academic argument about, at least not until we get more
> information about what happened.  I do believe 26 children and
> adults died that day and I find claim to the contrary absurd and
> insensitive.  It is comparable to what the holocaust deniers do,
> what the "9/11 was an inside job" people do, and, going way back,
> what people who dispute the single gun theory of JFK's assassination.
> If Tracy wants to grab this tiger by the tail, then he should know what
> the possible consequences are.  If people start calling him "Dick" Tracy,
> he should probably be aware the people are not comparing him to
> the cartoon detective but his insensitivity to people's pain.
> 
>> My TIPS query (and I'm not sure we've ever addressed this) is:  What
>> GIVES with conspiracy theorists?
> 
> I don't know.  Perhaps Scott Lilienfeld knows.  Remember "When
> Prophecy Fails"?  See:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails
> Remember the world was going to end in 2012?  Well, only Mitt
> Romney's did.
> NOTE:  Does anyone see a resemblance between Scott L. and Chris
> Green?  Except that Chris has more hair.
> 
>> Especially those with apparent credentials,
>> such as those of James Tracy.  What might be the motivation?
> 
> See Daryl Bem.  Why does he believe in PSI?  Why did Fisher
> believe in eugenics?  Why do so many people hate null hypothesis
> testing? NOTE: okay, I'm kidding with the last one.
> 
>> What might be underlying problems - if any - for these people?
>> Just need for attention?  BIRGing?
> 
> Okay, I admit, I had to look up BIRGing.  For other ignorant slobs
> like myself, see:
> http://www.units.muohio.edu/psybersite/fans/bc.shtml
> 
> Bottom line:  we need a whole lot more information about these people
> to understand why they believe these things, especially when they really,
> really believe in these weird things and are not just acting like trolls.
> I don't envy the people at FAU who are going to look into this.  Then
> again, I think that Tracy should not be surprised by what happens to
> him for acting like a dumbass.
> 
>> Obviously, there's always the possibility that conspiracy theorists are
>> correct.  (Naturally, that's their belief.)
> 
> Yeah, that's the ticket.  Of course, when there is a ton of contrary evidence
> that is simply ignored or dismissed (e.g., how old the earth is, global
> warming, etc.), one has to have some really good up their sleeve to
> finesse the situation.  Or one can just believe in what they want to believe.
> Like, in the spirit of the upcoming holidays, the Easter bunny and the
> Hare Club for Men.
> 
> -Mike Palij
> New York University
> [email protected]
> 
> 
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