Jim, I think you raise an extremely important question. Perhaps one reason why
some fail to appreciate the paradox is because of a deeply ingrained , strong
belief in mind-body duality that overrides a strict materialist view of
existence. Whether that duality, which Paul Bloom believes we are born with, is
maintained by one’s religion or some other means, the hope always is that those
experiences, or perhaps key aspects of them, have some basis in external
‘reality’ (however ‘reality’ might be defined).
Miguel, who never smoked a joint, let alone take hallucinogens, but who inhaled
lots of incense in his teens.
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Hi
The impact of drugs on mystical experiences would appear to be congenial with a
naturalistic explanation for such experiences. But how would people who believe
such experiences occur naturally due to supernatural events explain them?
Indeed, isn't it somewhat paradoxical for people (the subjects) to believe that
they have had some spiritual insight artificially induced by a chemical? Or is
it just the "experience" that matters, not some rational interpretation,
religious or otherwise?
Take care
Jim
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>>> "Mike Palij" <[email protected]> 29-Mar-13 6:03 PM >>>
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:56:21 -0700, Jim Clark wrote:
>Hi
>Leary was the advisor of Pahnke. The participants were identified
>as divinity students.
> http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_journal2.pdf
For completeness sake, the reference for the article that Jim links
to above is:
Doblin, R. (1991). Pahnke's Good Friday experiment: a long-term
follow-up and methodological critique. Journal of Transpersonal
Psychology, 23(1), 1-28.
NOTE: Doblin's article is a review of Pahnke's dissertation research
and he identifies a couple of problems that apparently were glossed
over in the dissertation and in subsequent publications.
The "Good Friday Experiment" is also known as the "Marsh Chapel
Experiment" and there is a Wikipedia entry with that name; see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
NOTE: There is info on a 2006 replication of Pahnke's research
and that research is can be read here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3050654/
The reference for Pahnke's dissertation (it's in Dissertation Abstracts
aka Proquest Dissertations & Theses) is the following:
PAHNKE, WALTER NORMAN. "Drugs and Mysticism:
An Analysis of the Relationship between Psychedelic Drugs
and the Mystical Consciousness." Harvard University, 1964.
There is the odd note attached to the entry for Pahnke saying
the following:
|Full text views are currently unavailable due to copyright restrictions
What this means is not exactly clear since the copyright for all
dissertations are held by their authors though DA/PDT makes some
dissertations available for immediate download.(e.g., my dissertation
can be downloaded from DA/PDT; the dissertation for the OTHER
Michael Palij in Kansas is not available for download). I suppose
that Pahnke could have told DA/PDT *not* to make it available
though that defeats the purpose of making the research available to
others (I never published the work reported in my dissertation and
have no problem in others having easy access to it). I suppose that
one could get Pahnke's dissertation from Harvard (see:
http://hollis.harvard.edu/?itemid=|library/m/aleph|001459501 )
but the question remains why Pahnke would restrict access to his
dissertation while reporting parts of it in places like this:
http://www.erowid.org/entheogens/journals/entheogens_journal3.shtml
Well, Good Friday to everyone, Christian or not.
-Mike Palij
New York University
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