I'm curious, Claudia: will your School end up in the College of Sciences and 
Engineering or in The College of Arts, Humanities, and Social Sciences?

Marty

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From: Claudia Stanny [[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:48 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Fwd: [PSYCHTEACHER] Changing Dept. name from Psychology to 
Psychological Science








Thanks for this historical perspective, Chris. I was unaware of the cachet of 
"physiological" during Wundt's time.

As Santayana said, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat 
it.

As you can see in my signature, my department has made this leap (and created a 
name that is too long to meet the character limits of fields in university and 
State data systems).

UWF is in the middle of a reorganization. The current proposal entails 
eliminating the College of Arts and Sciences and creating three colleges: 
College of Sciences and Engineering, College of Arts, Humanities, and Social 
Sciences, and College of Health. The campus discussions about which departments 
and programs belong where have been most interesting. Some departments have 
multiple programs that will be located in different colleges.

Language is powerful. Sometimes what we call things is important. Yes, it is 
marketing. But there is marketing that is pure spin and marketing that 
communicates substance to people who won't take the time to discover it 
otherwise. I think psychology is thin-skinned about this topic because it has 
sometimes harbored some silly stuff . . . as have other sciences, if we 
consider some of the "dead ends" of other sciences (phlogiston is the easiest 
target, cold fusion might be another, remember RNA-transfer of memories? - 
psychology shares some blame for that one). The self-correcting nature of 
science solves those problems (eventually). Still, the question about whether 
this particular marketing misfires and undermines our credibility is worth 
discussion.

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Claudia J. Stanny, Ph.D.
Director
Center for University Teaching, Learning, and Assessment
Associate Professor
NSF UWF Faculty ADVANCE Scholar
School of Psychological and Behavioral Sciences
University of West Florida
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Christopher Green 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:









Yesterday, someone on PsychTeacher asked a question about changing the name of 
his dept from "Psychology" to "Psychological Sciences." I was reminded of the 
old adage, "Any discipline that needs 'science' in its name isn't one," and I 
said so. A number of people responded, some on the list, some through back 
channel. Last night, I offered this explanation (below), but the PsychTeacher 
gate keepers thought it was argumentative and insulting (their words) and 
refused it. I had thought it was the opposite of that, but chacun à son goût.

I repost it here, for those of you who are on that other list, and wondered 
whether I was serious.

Chris
.......
Christopher D Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M6C 1G4

[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
http://www.yorku.ca/christo

Begin forwarded message:

From: Christopher Green <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: January 28, 2014 at 12:32:07 AM EST
To: Society for Teaching of Psychology PsychTeacher 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Fwd: [PSYCHTEACHER] Changing Dept. name from Psychology to 
Psychological Science

Earlier today I wrote:


All I can think of is the old saying, "Any discipline that needs 'science' in 
its name, isn't one."


There has been a bit more blowback than I expected. Note, I didn't say it was 
an immutable truth, only that I was reminded of it. When I first heard the 
expression, I was doing graduate "cognitive science," and reflexively thought 
"They can't mean us!" Then one day I saw a poster for a graduate program in 
"pastoral science," and I laughed and laughed. Just the way those in biology 
laughed at me, and those in chemistry laughed at those in the "biological 
sciences," and so forth.

Things don't have to be literally true to make one productively reflect on 
one's claims and, perhaps more important, on the academic insecurities that 
make one react defensively to a harmless joke. I understand why a "laboratory" 
department wouldn't want to be confused with a "clinical" department, but I 
also know a bit of the history of the field, and that knowledge makes me 
sometimes giggle at our modern turf battles. Wundt didn't call his psychology 
"physiological" because he thought he was doing physiology. He called it that 
in order to borrow for his new approach to psychology the aura of successes 
that "modern" German experimental physiology had achieved in the pervious few 
decades (while simultaneously borrowing their lab equipment). "Physiology" was 
the fashionable academic word of the age. There were "physiological" ethics and 
"physiological" aesthetics at the time too, so-named for the same reason. It 
was marketing, pure and simple. And it worked. Wundt and his lab were so 
successful in placing graduates in philosophy chairs around Germany that the 
traditional philosophers were driven to present a petition to the Minister of 
Education to have it stopped. The German government responded by creating 
separate Psychology departments.

It is the same with our lobbying for the word "science" to be included in the 
names of our departments. Both true and necessary as well as petty and 
casuistic, all at the same time.

Such is life.

Chris
.......
Christopher D Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M6C 1G4

[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
http://www.yorku.ca/christo



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