Just as a personal note, when I was in high school, I was pretty much a C student (had too many other things on my mind including girls, baseball, and music. I applied to the top 5 pharmacy schools in the country (at that time) and, because of my excellent SAT scores was accepted by 4 of them. I don't know if things have changed that much, but my experience was real. Of course, I flunked out of the program at the end of my first year (for the same reasons that I didn't do very well in high school), but after 6 years of real world experience, I returned to school, majored in psychology and got my doctorate in 6 years. Testing can give us some information, but it doesn't tell anywhere near the whole story.
----- Original Message ----- From: David Hogberg <[email protected]> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 23:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [tips] What Does The SAT Predict? I might add that the same thing happens (w/ some frequency, anyway) with success in graduate school and college test scores, gpa, etc. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Wuensch, Karl L <[email protected]> wrote: Also seemingly ignored in the recent discourse, although high school grades may better predict college GPA than does the SAT, each explains considerable variance in college GPA that the other does not. Some very able people do not do well in high school. The SAT gives them a chance to show that they are able, and, hopefully, will be more motivated in college than at that high school run by morons. Cheers,From: Mike Palij [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:17 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Cc: Michael Palij Subject: [tips] What Does The SAT Predict? Consider: the knock on the SATs has recently been that they donot predict job performance or success later in life. But what ifthe SAT is used as a criterion for a job after college? The NY Times has an opinion piece on this which some might findinteresting; see:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/sunday-review/how-businesses-use-your-sats.html?emc=edit_th_20140330&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=389166&_r=0 Make sure you read to the end where the explanation is givenas to why Google didn't find a correlation (hint: restriction ofrange may play a role). -Mike PalijNew York [email protected] ---You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected] unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13060.c78b93d4d09ef6235e9d494b3534420e&n=T&l=tips&o=35663(It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken)or send a blank email to leave-35663-13060.c78b93d4d09ef6235e9d494b35344...@fsulist.frostburg.edu ---You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected] unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13152.d92d7ec47187a662aacda2d4b4c7628e&n=T&l=tips&o=35677(It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken)or send a blank email to leave-35677-13152.d92d7ec47187a662aacda2d4b4c76...@fsulist.frostburg.edu -- David K. Hogberg, PhD Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Department of Psychological Science Albion College Albion MI 49224 Tel: 517/629-4834 (Home and mobile) ---You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected] unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13185.d5346723901d967ccc167929e2ee94ad&n=T&l=tips&o=35678(It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken)or send a blank email to leave-35678-13185.d5346723901d967ccc167929e2ee9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=35687 or send a blank email to leave-35687-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
