I agree with Bill Scott about Green's odd defense of his culpability. I
have both provided and obtained raw data for reanalysis. If there is an
IRB issue then this can usually be resolved by providing an addendum to
the original request. Finally, as Mike P documented, Green and LaCour
have a history of shared work so it would not be odd for Green to check
analyses with the raw data.
Ken
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On 5/22/2015 8:24 AM, William Scott wrote:
There is something peculiar about Professor Green's spin on his own culpability
in the matter. Even though he is the co-author, he claims not to have had
access to the raw data because the study was not approved by Columbia's IRB,
only by UCLA.
I do not know of anything that forbids data analysis without local IRB
approval. Am I missing something?
Bill Scott
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From: Stuart McKelvie<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:36 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: RE: [tips] Retraction of another psychology article
Dear Tipsters,
Last night, CBC's "As it Happens" broadcast a very interesting interview with
Dr. Green. At that point he said that the graduate student had not admitted wrong doing.
However, he said that the was almost certain that data were fabricated.
You can listen here:
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-tuesday-edition-1.3079544/researcher-retracts-landmark-same-sex-marriage-study-claims-co-author-fabricated-data-1.3080637
Sincerely,
Stuart
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Palij [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:24 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Cc: Michael Palij
Subject: Re: [tips] Retraction of another psychology article
On Thu, 21 May 2015 07:37:48 -0700, Ken Steele wrote:
On 5/21/2015 10:13 AM, Jim Clark wrote:
Not to quibble, but this study was carried out by Political
Scientists.
On Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:10 AM, Ken Steele originally wrote:
http://retractionwatch.com/2015/05/20/author-retracts-study-of-changi
ng-minds-on-same-sex-marriage-after-colleague-admits-data-were-faked/
Oops! Please quibble.
Well, who am I to refuse an invitation? ;-)
Though PolySci types, there is much here that is relevant to psychologists,
especially methodologists. Putting the issue of fraud (unverifiable data
collection and analysis in the first study of the retracted paper) aside, it is
interesting to note that the authors Green and LaCour were co-authors on a
previous paper. From scholar.google.com, here is the reference:
Aronow, P. M., Gerber, A. S., Green, D. P., Kern, H.,& LaCour, M. J.
(2015).
Double Sampling for Nonignorable Missing Outcome Data in Randomized Experiments.
Note #1: Apparently this is an unpublished manuscript and Google Scholar also
has a 2014 version entry in its database. The link to the 2014 pdf of the
article on scholar.google.com is dead but the link to the 2015 is alive. You
can obtain the PDF of the manuscript here (for now):
http://csap.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/green2.pdf
Note #2: Aronow is the first author of this paper. Aronow is also named in the
Retraction Watch article as the person Green went to regarding the problems in the
LaCour& Green manuscript
Note #3: The PDF is available on Yale's "Center for the Study of American Politics" (CSAP). A search of the website for
"Donald Green" and "Michael LaCour" turns up nothing -- it seems that the search "ANDs" the two names. A
search using "Michael LaCour" provides no hits while a search using "Donald Green"
produces two hits; see:
http://csap.yale.edu/search/node/%22Donald%20Green%22
Both hits are to CSAP workshops on quantitative research methods.
Note #4. One of the workshop that Green gave at CSAP is based on the
manuscript identified above; see:
http://csap.yale.edu/event/macmillan-csap-workshop-quantitative-research-methods-donald-green-double-sampling
The workshop/presentation was being given at Yale's Institution for Social and
Policy Studies (ISPS) which the page immediately above claims that Green was
the director of during 1996-2011.
Note #5: A search of ISPS for "Donald Green" and "Michael LaCour"
produces no hits. A search for just "Donald Green" produces a number of hits
(including the one at CSAP) plus others on topics such as regression discontinuity
analysis (Political Analysis), ISPS Experiment workshop, and other political and
methodological topics; see:
http://isps.yale.edu/search/node/%22Donald%20Green%22#.VV32u1Ldb-o
Looks like Yale doesn't want anything to do with Michael LaCour even though he
is a co-author on a paper from one of their research centers.
-Mike Palij
New York University
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