Also, some of you may be interested to know that the APA has published online public information brochures on sexual orientation <http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/orientation.aspx> and gender identity <http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx>.
Cheers, Arlie -- Arlie R. Belliveau, MA History & Theory of Psychology Doctoral Student York University Department of Psychology 059 Behavioural Science Building 4700 Keele St. Toronto, ON [email protected] www.arliebelliveau.com On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Arlie Belliveau <[email protected]> wrote: > We have a Masters student at York working on the psychometrics of > complicating sex and gender beyond M/F for psychological measures. I'm > excited to see what they develop. > > Correspondence analysis <http://www.datavis.ca/courses/grcat/grc5.html> (for > categorical data) or multilevel modeling > <http://www.biostat.jhsph.edu/~fdominic/teaching/bio656/lectures/1.intro.pdf> > (for mixed designs) would offer viable solutions to include n levels of a > gender variable. Or, you could run it as a regression, if the researcher > had reason to consider (and ability to measure) gender identity as a > continuum or spectrum. > > I absolutely would not be interested in interpreting a 5 way (or even 56 > way > <http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/02/13/facebook_custom_gender_options_here_are_all_56_custom_options.html>) > interaction ;) > > Arlie > > -- > Arlie R. Belliveau, MA > > History & Theory of Psychology Doctoral Student > York University Department of Psychology > 059 Behavioural Science Building > 4700 Keele St. Toronto, ON > [email protected] > www.arliebelliveau.com > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Mike Palij <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 May 2015 09:48:08 -0700, Christopher Green wrote: >> >>> And, since ANOVA is merely a constrained special case of the >>> General Linear Model, there is not even really a practical limit >>> on the number of values a continuous "gender" variable might >>> assume. >>> >> >> Okay, this is getting a little bit silly. Not the General Linear Model >> or how many levels ANOVA can handle (Advice: use few independent >> levels with few levels; you don't know what a headache is until you >> try to explain a five-way interaction) but the more fundamental issue >> of "what is the question that one wants to get answer to?" Michael >> Scoles below clearly points in this direction and Jim Clark adds >> to it with the concept of asexuality but is one concerned with: >> >> (1) Traditional gender role self-identification (i.e., male or female >> or some mixture of the two). Note: this is primarily a psychological >> variable created through a developmental history within certain >> cultural environments. That is, a personally defined gender >> role consistent with one's experience with one's body and >> with the cultural strictures concerning sex. >> >> (2) Genetically based sex differences (XX vs XY vs variations). >> Do genes have an influence on sexual orientation and behavior? >> Maybe, maybe not, see: >> http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=66 >> >> (3) Sexual behavior (Males having Sex with Females or MSF, >> Males having Sex with Males or MSM, Females having Sex >> with Females or FSF, Sex with both Same Sex and Opposite >> Sex, Sorry No Sex -- We're British, etc.). >> Note: Sexual behavior does not have to reflect sexual orientation >> as AIDS/HIV research have shown: males who define themselves >> as traditional heterosexuals may engage in sex with other >> males ["on the down low"] and deny any homosexual interests or >> attractions >> Note #2: Given the adaptability of human behavior, including >> sexual behavior, it should come as no surprise that males and >> females may define themselves one way ("straight","gay/lesbian", >> etc.) but still behave in ways that are inconsistent with that >> definition. For example, "straight" males and females when put >> into situations where access to the opposite sex is limited, may >> engage in homosexual behavior without changing their sexual >> orientation. While in prison, some people become "gay for >> the stay", that is, will engaged in homosexual behavior while in >> prison but return to heterosexual behavior when released. >> There is "gay for pay", that is, one engages in same sex acts >> to earn money but engages in heterosexual personal relationships. >> See also paragraph #3 in the CRG article I link to above: >> During one phase of one's life one is one way but during a >> later phase they're another. >> >> So, which is it: >> (a) Self-definition/cultural definition of sexual role and identity >> (b) Genetic definition of sexual role and identity >> (c) Behavioral definition of sexual role and identity >> >> Or are all three involved but, as is the human tendency, we tend >> to oversimplify things just to be able to get through the day because >> we have too many other things to consider and do as well. >> >> By the way, I've taken to saying in my research methods and statistics >> classes "Let's use 'Sex/Gender' as a grouping variable and, for >> purposes of simplification, let's just assume there are two levels. >> We can complicate things after we get through the basics." >> >> -Mike Palij >> New York University >> [email protected] >> >> P.S. I'll leave the category of "bi-curious" to someone else. >> I'm tuckered out from thinking so much about sex. ;-) >> >> >> On May 12, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Jim Clark wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Since ANOVA handles any number of levels of a factor (2, 3, 7, 24? .), >>> ANOVA >>> need make no adjustment to accommodate more complex models of human >>> sexual >>> orientation. It is the researcher who must decide what is the appropriate >>> number of levels and expected pattern of results, all of which is happily >>> handled by ANOVA. >>> >>> To further complicate matters, there is a growing literature on >>> Asexuality >>> that might be relevant here, depending on how one is defining the >>> different >>> levels of the sexual orientation factor. That is, if it is defined by the >>> targets of people's sexual attraction, then clearly Asexuality needs to >>> be >>> accommodated. Here's a link to Tony Bogaert's book: >>> >>> http://www.amazon.com/Anthony-F.-Bogaert/e/B007LU54TY >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:03 AM, Michael Scoles wrote: >>> >>> Dear Sir or Madam: >>> >>> You raise an interesting question, but in order to answer it, more >>> information is needed. >>> (1) What is the dependent variable and what is the reason for >>> investigating >>> its association with gender? >>> (2) From your description, it appears that there is a second independent >>> variable, with two levels. What is this variable and what are the >>> levels? >>> (3) LGBT is an acronym with four letters (some would add Q), but you >>> only >>> include 3 levels for gender in your proposed design. Which group are you >>> choosing to offend? >>> >>> Thank you for any clarification you can provide. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:46 AM, michael sylvester wrote: >>> >>> With Bruce Jenner in mind.ANOVA may have to make some adjustmes to >>> accommodate >>> LGBT subjects. Currently the gender variable N2 male/female but with >>> LGBT >>> subjects coming into the subject pool we may be lookimg not at a 2x2 >>> design >>> but a 3x2 design.Of course ANOVA >>> measures simple,main,and interaction effects.Those analyses would be very >>> interestingWith LGBT a subset of the gender paradigm,when does the he or >>> the >>> she kicks in. >>> michael >>> daytona beach.florida >>> 'going beyond where no tipster has gone before.' >>> >>> >> >> >> --- >> You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe click here: >> http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13091.5fbcba6b94d471416a45a34246e4403b&n=T&l=tips&o=44735 >> or send a blank email to >> leave-44735-13091.5fbcba6b94d471416a45a34246e44...@fsulist.frostburg.edu >> > > --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. 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