Exactly.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Jim Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Hi
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> I’m not sure this explains things like the effect of prior stimuli on
> perception of ambiguous figures like the rat-man, which is differently
> interpreted depending on prior sequence of animals or faces.
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> Jim
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> [image: Description: percpetual set expectation]
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> Jim Clark
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> Professor & Chair of Psychology
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> *From:* Michael Scoles [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 09, 2016 10:46 AM
> *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> *Subject:* Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans
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> My first guess wasn't that good.  On pages 246-249 of "The senses
> considered as perceptual systems,"  Gibson discusses reversible figure
> ground and impossible (Escher-type) figures.  His explanation is that the
> same stimulus can provide equivocal information.  In natural settings,
> children and adults learn which sources of information should be attended
> to.
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> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Michael Scoles <[email protected]> wrote:
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> My first guess is that the observer normally moves.
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> On Feb 8, 2016 6:39 PM, "Michael Scoles" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> He has a chapter on it.  Not sure which book, but it is in my office.
> I'll try to remember to look it up in the morning.
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> On Feb 8, 2016 4:59 PM, "Jim Clark" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> And how would Gibson explain ambiguous stimuli where the identical input
> gives rise to different interpretations?
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>
>
> Jim
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 8, 2016, at 3:51 PM, "Michael Scoles" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Gibson would argue that, unless by "past experience" you mean biological
> evolution in environments that structure energy, the necessary information
> for perception is readily available from that structure (e.g., texture
> gradients, kinetic optical occlusion).
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>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Stuart McKelvie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> Dear Tipsters,
>
> I like D. O. Hebb's distinction between sensation and perception as a way
> of distinguishing bottom-up and top-down processing.
>
> Hebb defines sensation as activity in the sense organ and corresponding
> sensory receiving areas of the brain. You can easily illustrate this with a
> diagram, say for the visual system.
>
> Perception is then what occurs when this information is sent on to other
> parts of the brain and interpreted in the light of context and past
> experience (top-down processing).
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Stuart
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Annette Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: February-08-16 3:49 PM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> Subject: [tips] bottom up processing in humans
>
> I am having a bit of a hard time this year answering questions about
> bottom up processing.
>
> Student question: How can it be truly bottom up if it requires a
> comparison to a stored image? Isn't that like top-down? You use the stored
> image to recognize what it is that is coming in. How are these actually
> different?
>
> I did have a response but I want to withhold it from here so not to bias
> responses from the list.
>
> Student question: Is there any real life example of people using template
> models of pattern recognition? If not, why did they even get developed as
> models of human pattern recognition?
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> My answer here was really lame, IMHO so I am looking for a better one but
> as above, don't want to bias responses.
>
> Maybe I'm particular brain dead that these two stumped me.
>
> Annette
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