Hi

I liked the piece as well, but come away with a different conclusion than 
Chris. First, if grades were completely eliminated, then I suspect there would 
be a LOT less learning by a LOT more students. Might be an interesting 
exercise. Second, grades do provide a concise summary of the student's 
performance (learning?) in the course that is informative, especially when 
paired with an appreciation of what the course entails (e.g., course outlines, 
standard course content in many psychology courses). Third, the article was 
based on anecdotal evidence from a history professor. Not to belittle history 
professors, but probably not the group I would defer to about empirical 
questions related to teaching. My own anecdotal evidence is that the students 
who perform the best in classes do tend to be the ones who learned the most 
(and were able to demonstrate that learning on evaluations).

But a de-emphasis of grades is certainly a good thing, so that students do not 
get embroiled in arguing for one or two more marks on every piece of 
evaluation, focusing on marks instead of learning, and the like. One way I try 
to do this in my courses is to tell students at the start that no one will be 
left with a final mark just below the next grade boundary. Given the number of 
evaluations, all percentages out of 100, each evaluation would have to change 
by a large amount to make a difference on the final grade. My logic is that a 
final mark is a point estimation with some margin of error around it, and that 
error could include the fixed value of the grade boundary. So the range for a 
final mark of 69 (C+) could easily include 69.5, the cut-off for B. The same 
would not be true (or would be less true), for a final mark of 68. A contrarian 
in the department suggested I should do the same for marks just above the grade 
boundary, but that would produce anomalies (e.g., students with lower marks 
getting higher grades than students with higher marks). Also, not consistent 
with de-emphasis on grades. If quite notable, I will also pay some attention to 
improvement in marks, especially on the final test each term, a point discussed 
here earlier.

I've never used it, but is there any evidence for more learning in Pass/Fail 
courses, which may be close to Chris's no grades?

Take care
Jim

Jim Clark
Professor & Chair of Psychology
University of Winnipeg
204-786-9757
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From: Christopher Green [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 8:25 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: [tips] Why grades undermine learning



Here's an interesting column from today's "Inside Higher Ed" about how the 
relentless emphasis on grades undermines the learning process. It is close to 
something that I have been saying for years, though most people think of 
grading as so inherent to schooling that they are unable to understand me, and 
often respond by listing the putative motivational advantages of grades. (I go 
one step further, arguing that grades should be eliminated, in order to focus 
student on their learning itself, rather than on the putative measurement of 
their learning.

My favourite snippet:

"Yet while these students think they're keeping their eyes on the ball, they 
are actually just staring at the scoreboard."

http://tinyurl.com/hosc6mu


Chris
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Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada
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