Hi I downloaded the dataset to play with a bit. Below is a plot of income success (y axis) as a function of access (x axis). Universities with higher access rates in general result in lower percentages of low income students in higher incomes later in life. It is the product of these two variables (as fractions) that produce their mobility measure. I can't quite get my head fully around why mobility (the product) would be a better outcome measure than success.
Lots of factors at play here, but one thing I wonder about is graduation rates for low income students. Are low income students graduating at the same rates in the low and high access universities? Perhaps the access measure in part reflects different standards for admission (i.e., not simply $)? Take care Jim [cid:[email protected]] Jim Clark Professor & Chair of Psychology University of Winnipeg 204-786-9757 Room 4L41A (4th Floor Lockhart) www.uwinnipeg.ca/~clark<http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~clark> From: Kenneth Steele [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: January-22-17 4:17 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] College based Mobility in the U.S.A. Very interesting infographics. The cool part is being able to enter other school names and see how they rank. One issue I see with the graphic is that it show percentages and not absolute values. So elite colleges such as Bryn Mawr, Vassar, and Barnard do very well on highest percentage of low and middle income students but the size of a class is very small. Hence, the absolute number of students that benefit is small. On the other hand, UCLA tops that list. Kudos to UCLA. Ken --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kenneth M. Steele, Ph.D. [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Professor Department of Psychology http://www.psych.appstate.edu Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608 USA --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Jan 22, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Mike Palij <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I'm kind of surprised that no one on Tips has mentioned this recent article in the NY Time that is based on an economic analysis of the income background of students to the colleges that they attend and the likelihood that the students will move upward (or, if coming from a poor background but going to a college with a lot of middle class students, will earn incomes comparable to their college peers). The NY Time article is here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html?em_pos=small&emc=edit_up_20170118&nl=upshot&nl_art=0&nlid=389166&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0 It's all somewhat complicated but the graphics help to make the information somewhat more accessible. The original research report and additional materials can be accessed at the Equality of Opportunity Project website: --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13524.94845a3ed9806f1cef14973830dd8c39&n=T&l=tips&o=50285 or send a blank email to leave-50285-13524.94845a3ed9806f1cef14973830dd8...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-50285-13524.94845a3ed9806f1cef14973830dd8...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=3229968.90f21a83d5f62f052ba84a49e2f91291&n=T&l=tips&o=50287 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-50287-3229968.90f21a83d5f62f052ba84a49e2f91...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-50287-3229968.90f21a83d5f62f052ba84a49e2f91...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=50288 or send a blank email to leave-50288-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
