"Cranking the KDF" suffices for providing "subkeys" that are cryptographically 
intractable, which should address the concern of "too much plaintext under the 
same key". That's less than what I'd consider a "full re-key". ‎And even then 
"cranking the KDF" with something newly-random isn't a bad idea at all.

I don't think common crypto expertise would disagree.

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  Original Message  
From: Salz, Rich
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 16:09
To: Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL; Eric Rescorla
Cc: Florian Weimer; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [TLS] Data volume limits

> When the key is changed, the change procedure should involve new randomness. 
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I don't think this is necessary, and I don't think the common crypto expertise 
agrees with you, either. But I am not a cryptographer, maybe one of the ones on 
this list can chime in.

"Crank the KDF" suffices.


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