Hi Martin > -----Original Message----- > From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Rex > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:47 AM > To: Steve Fenter <steven.fente...@gmail.com> > Cc: tls@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS for enterprise "visibility" (don't do it) > > Steve Fenter <steven.fente...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > To clarify for anyone who has confusion on the enterprise TLS > > visibility use case, I think enterprises need to be able to do > > out-of-band decryption anywhere in the network that they own. > > This is argument is so lame. > > In Germany, monitoring communications between individuals or between > individuals and legal entities, including communications over corporate > networks, was made a serious crime in 2004 (TKG 2004) with a penalty of up > to 5 years in prison for listening into such communication. > > The world didn't end. Really, consider it proven that there is no need. > Could monitoring could be legally done if user provided his consent at the time of login into enterprise managed terminal? I guess that's the case in enterprise managed networks.
> There may be _desires_. For me, those desires are no less unethical as data > collections by apple, camebridge analytica, facebook, google, microsoft, > whathaveyou... > > .... and fortunately, for corporations in germany, such data gathering is not > just unethical, but truely criminal by law. > > > -Martin > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww > w.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftls&data=02%7C01%7Cvakul.garg%40n > xp.com%7C17aacd25ee5c49568aca08d595021677%7C686ea1d3bc2b4c6fa9 > 2cd99c5c301635%7C0%7C0%7C636578758559728633&sdata=sa3hcM4C94 > %2BX826Xcu4BwvfkIFzfJiB8cjPjOh7s8pI%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls