AFAIK, all the ISO standards that IETF refers to, were defined elsewhere first, i.e., ISO defined them based on some open submissions, publications, etc.
I fully agree with Rene – if you want the specs standardized, provide the complete specs, including the missing parts 1 and 3. From: TLS <[email protected]> on behalf of Kepeng Li <[email protected]> Reply-To: Kepeng Li <[email protected]> Date: Friday, August 16, 2019 at 3:15 AM To: "rstruik.ext" <[email protected]>, TLS <[email protected]> Subject: [TLS] Re： Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 Hi Rene and all, > Since the ISO documents are not available to the general > public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available > document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a > reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and > researchers). About the references to ISO documens, I think it is a general issue for IETF drafts. How does the other IETF drafts make the references to ISO documents? ISO documents are often referenced by IETF drafts. Thanks, Kind Regards Kepeng —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————— Re: [TLS] Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 Rene Struik <[email protected]> Thu, 15 August 2019 15:34 UTCShow header Hi Paul: I tried and look up the documents GMT.0009-2012 and GBT.32918.5-2016 on the (non-secured) websites you referenced, but only found Chinese versions (and Chinese website navigation panels [pardon my poor language skills here]). Since the ISO documents are not available to the general public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and researchers). Please note that BSI provides its specifications in German and English, so as to foster use/study by the community. If the Chinese national algorithms would be available in similar form, this would serve a similar purpose. FYI - I am interested in full details and some time last year I tried to download specs, but only Parts 2, 4, and 5 were available [1], [2], [3], not Parts 1 and 3. Best regards, Rene [1] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - Part 5 - Parameter Definition (SEMB, July 24, 2018) [2] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - Part 2 - Digital Signature Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018) [3] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - Part 4 - Public Key Encryption Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018) On 8/15/2019 10:16 AM, Paul Yang wrote: > Hi all, > > I have submitted a new internet draft to introduce the SM cipher > suites into TLS 1.3 protocol. > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-00 > > SM cryptographic algorithms are originally a set of Chinese national > algorithms and now have been (or being) accepted by ISO as > international standards, including SM2 signature algorithm, SM3 hash > function and SM4 block cipher. These algorithms have already been > supported some time ago by several widely used open source > cryptographic libraries including OpenSSL, BouncyCastle, Botan, etc. > > Considering TLS1.3 is being gradually adopted in China's internet > industry, it's important to have a normative definition on how to use > the SM algorithms with TLS1.3, especially for the mobile internet > scenario. Ant Financial is the company who develops the market leading > mobile app 'Alipay' and supports payment services for Alibaba > e-commerce business. We highly are depending on the new TLS1.3 > protocol for both performance and security purposes. We expect to have > more deployment of TLS1.3 capable applications in China's internet > industry by this standardization attempts. > > It's very appreciated to have comments from the IETF TLS list :-) > > Many thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
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