Gorry Fairhurst has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-tls-deprecate-obsolete-kex-06: Discuss

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DISCUSS:
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Thank you for making this document and the detailed research that likely
underpins this proposed update to many RFCs. I am very supportive of this work,
however, as this proceeds I have some things that I’d like to see clarified.  I
would have just passed comments to the editors, but I am not entirely sure how
a reader of this document is to now interpret the set of published RFCs I think
readers (who may have even less experience than me) ought to clearly understand
what has changed.

## DISCUSS 1: I am unsure what is actually required to be updated in the list
of RFCs in para 1. I see sentences like: “This includes all cipher suites
listed in the table in Appendix A.” My question is what does “includes” mean
here?  Could this be as simple as a statement something like: “This  updates
the set of RFCs listed in this document in XXX to deprecate the use of
non-ephemeral FFDH cipher suites in (D)TLS 1.2 connections.” Or is there more
needed?

## DISCUSS 2: If there is a change to clarify the update would it be possible
to make a similar change for all other statements in paras 2,3, and sections 3
and 4. (See Med’s DISCUSS of how this can reflected in some of the specific
IANA registries).

## DISCUSS 3: I  see this updates a BCP, RFC9325, but I am unsure in what way
this is formally updated. I see the text: “ [RFC9325] contains the latest IETF
recommendations for users of the (D)TLS protocol (and specifically, (D)TLS 1.2)
and this document supersedes it in several points.” - I was expecting text in a
section of the document that specifically stated what sections/text was to be
changed in that document, but I could not work that out for certain, and hence
this list of points is not clear. Can these changes to RFC9325 be made explicit
in this specific I-D?

I have raised these as DISCUSS items, because I could not clearly understand
the intention of the requested changes to the published RFCs. I expect this to
be very easy to resolve some way, but would like to understand how. I plan to
clear my discuss with support for this document.

Best, Gorry.


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COMMENT:
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I see the lists of RFCs to be updated have been placed in appendices. I would
have expected these to appear in subsections within the body of the published
RFC - reasoning that this is not supplementary material, but is the core
contribution.  However, if that style is acceptable for this WG, then that
would of course be fine for me also. My comment is that I would strongly
encourage that each appendix add a sentence or a change to the title that
explains that is the normative list of RFCs to be changed.



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