Hi Eric,

> ### S6.{2,3,...}
>
> * I think if I were implementing this I would try to probe both the old
>    and the new paths at the same time.
>
>    Can you say something about the considerations such an implementation
>    would need to be aware of?

RRC is a "companion extension" for DTLS CID, and DTLS CID was introduced
to mitigate address remapping (e.g. caused by NAT timeouts).
In the very most cases, if the server gets a message with an new
address, this is no indication of an attack, this is the usual and
expected behavior. Using the old path, especially if that was used
"longer" ago (I use 30s as "longer") doesn't make too much sense,
because that will then be withdrawn/dropped by the NAT.

If a response is larger (see definition of amplification), using RRC
with small messages in order to check the new path is something I would
always recommend.
Checking the old path I would only do, if I'm aware of the specific
network setup (e.g. defined and known NAT timeout) and so using the
old path has a chance to be successful.

br
Achim



Am 05.07.25 um 01:44 schrieb Erik Kline via Datatracker:
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## Comments

### S6

* A brief explanation of what is meant by "nested rebinding" would be good.

### S6.{2,3,...}

* I think if I were implementing this I would try to probe both the old
   and the new paths at the same time.

   Can you say something about the considerations such an implementation
   would need to be aware of?




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