Hi Paul,
Quoting from [2] below: "The chairs will then redo a working group last call to see if there is rough consensus for publishing this document." FWIW, I read that as meaning a fresh WGLC not one limited to the diff. And I think it'd be unwise to process this as if it weren't as controversial as it clearly is. Cheers, S. On 20/02/2026 15:00, Paul Wouters wrote:
[ AD hat on ] All, I want to remind people that the goal of this 2nd WGLC is to focus on the new text changed in responds to the conclusion of the 1st WGLC. We already had a WGLC on this document [1] and the conclusion [2] was that it passed WGLC provided some clarifying text would be added that stated that for the general use case, hybrids were preferred. This 2nd WGLC is about that topic. There is an appeal chain that got muddled by the inappropriate use of derivative clauses that is still in progress, but so far yielded the AD statement [3] that confirmed the WG Chairs view that the consensus call passed. There is an appeal with the IESG [4] on that decision, and this document will not be placed in the RFC Editor queue until that appeal has concluded, but will also not stop all processing while the appeal runs. This 2nd WGLC is meant to get those people who provisionally said "yes" to publication of this document pending some extra text, to review this text and let us know if that resolves the conditional part of their "yes" statement. The text changes to discuss can be seen at:https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-tls- mlkem-05&url2=draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07&difftype=--htmlI understand this is a heated topic. I am also not hearing from people that they have changed their opinion on whether or not to publish this document at all. Confirming your views are fine, but again, that is not the goal of this 2nd WGLC. It would be helpful if, especially those people who wanted additional clarifying text, to give us feedback on this. And ideally, offer up suggestions that would address any still outstanding issues. Thanks, Paul [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/Pzdox1sDDG36q19PWDVPghsiyXA/ [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/Gc6KVPrVHn-QCkeEcvJ_qtRcFxY/ [3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/dzPT8KQe4S-_pZROLUJMvS9pM0M/ [4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/iesg/appeals/artifact/230 _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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