> I'm not mad or anything,
I can’t express how happy this reassurance makes me. > but this is a classic IETF antipattern: declaring consensus when one is not > the chair. Well, I’ve been participating in the IETF WGs only since ̴1992, so how would I know… But there’s a difference between “declaring” a consensus (which you kindly attributed to me), and repeating what the Chairs already stated a while ago (especially when some people keep contesting their decision). > The reason for this concept is that the chairs get off-list feedback too, > and they must evaluate whether a key participant will not go along with a > proposal. Here’s who I consider “key participants” in the TLS protocol and WG, and why: * Taher Elgamal — SSL originator (Netscape) * Paul Kocher — SSL 3.0 architect, cryptographic design * Tim Dierks — long-time TLS editor and co-author * Eric Rescorla — major force in TLS 1.2 and 1.3, also wrote SSL and TLS: Designing and Building Secure Systems (nice book, BTW — it’s still on my bookshelf) * Hugo Krawczyk — HMAC, key derivation (HKDF), foundational to TLS security * Mihir Bellare / Phillip Rogaway — AEAD theory used in TLS 1.2+ * Kazuho Oku / Nick Sullivan — operational + performance-driven TLS 1.3 work IMHO, the only “key participant” remaining in this WG today is Eric Rescorla. I don’t recall others from the list below posting their opinion here recently, and doubt they contacted the Chairs off-list. On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 5:25 PM Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <[email protected] <98d41acc-c36b-4591-9a8e-648dee5a5ef5>> wrote: >> Considering the ratio of the “objectors” to the “supporters”, the consensus >> seems to be there. > > Not your job. What’s next — you’ll refuse to pay me for participation here? 😃 (Besides, the WG chairs, if memory serves, did declare consensus — I’m merely noting that fact.) -- V/R, Uri Blumenthal There are two ways to design a system. One is to make it so simple there are obviously no deficiencies. The other is to make it so complex there are no obvious deficiencies. - C. A. R. Hoare I was a shepherd to fools Causelessly bold or afraid. They would not abide by my rules. Yet they escaped. For I stayed. R. Kipling “Epitaphs of the War. Convoy Escort”
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