Dear Eliot,

I appreciate the attempts at counter argument, but it doesn't appear to be 
fully fleshed out. Forget former or latter. Canada intends to treat 
RECOMMENDED=N the same as RECOMMENDED=Y. A very quantum state like outcome 
indeed.

Whether the N was triggered by the first reason, the second, or the third is 
irrelevant. The flag is N. The recommendation flag is the same regardless of 
which input produced it [1].

Canada plans to treat N the same as Y. That is the point.

Best,
Andrew


[1] Let c = consensus, a = limited applicability and s = specific use cases.

For N being not recommended:

N = (!c || a || s) [2]

[2] As you said, and I agree, any of the three reasons can lead to a document 
marked as not recommended, and in this case, it’s not recommended and Canada 
intends to ignore it.


> On Jul 5, 2026, at 10:18 AM, Eliot Lear <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> On 05.07.2026 19:00, Andrew Lee wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan said the Cyber Centre will not recommend one over the other. That 
>> means Canada plans to treat a limited-applicability, specific-use-case 
>> option as equivalent to the RECOMMENDED=Y hybrid.
> As is commonly pointed out, the IETF are not the protocol police, as we have 
> limited policing power[1].  Beyond that, you should re-read the text Rich 
> mentioned:
> 
>     If the "Recommended" column is set to "N", it does not necessarily 
>     mean that it is flawed; rather, it indicates that the item either 
>     has not been through the IETF consensus process, has limited 
>     applicability, or is intended only for specific use cases. …
> Note the or (emphasis added).  Any one of those reasons generates an N, and 
> in this case it seems that the former applies.  I am not so sure about the 
> latter two.
> 
> Eliot
> 
> [1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9948.html
> 
> <OpenPGP_0x87B66B46D9D27A33.asc>

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