> Do you see an entry in /var/log/maillog sayting that the email got
> sent out?  If not, then TMDA, for some reason is not actually sending
> the email.  Do you have something like this in ~/.tmda/config?
> SENDMAIL = "/usr/sbin/sendmail"
>
> Cheers,
> - Mark

naah nothing in maillog other than it went

/var/log/maillog =
postfix/qmgr[592]: D551E2F6EE: from=<austin>, size=795, nrcpt=3 (queue
active)
postfix/local[1097]: D551E2F6EE: to=<joe>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent
(mailbox)
postfix/smtpd[1102]: connect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
postfix/smtpd[1102]: BD4122F6EF: client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
postfix/cleanup[1094]: BD4122F6EF: message-id=<1038593331.1099.TMDA@mx1>
postfix/smtpd[1103]: connect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
postfix/smtpd[1093]: disconnect from skywolf[192.168.1.19]
postfix/smtpd[1103]: 060C22F6F0: client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
postfix/cleanup[1104]: 060C22F6F0: message-id=<1038593331.1100.TMDA@mx1>
postfix/smtpd[1102]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
postfix/local[1096]: D551E2F6EE: to=<austin>, relay=local, delay=3,
status=sent ("| /usr/local/src/tmda-0.65/bin/tmda-filter")
postfix/qmgr[592]: BD4122F6EF: from=<>, size=2499, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
postfix/smtpd[1103]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
postfix/local[1098]: D551E2F6EE: to=<john>, relay=local, delay=3,
status=sent ("| /usr/local/src/tmda-0.65/bin/tmda-filter")
postfix/local[1097]: BD4122F6EF: to=<austin>, relay=local, delay=1,
status=sent ("| /usr/local/src/tmda-0.65/bin/tmda-filter")
postfix/qmgr[592]: 060C22F6F0: from=<>, size=2477, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
postfix/local[1096]: 060C22F6F0: to=<austin>, relay=local, delay=1,
status=sent ("| /usr/local/src/tmda-0.65/bin/tmda-filter")

.tmda/config =
MAIL_TRANSFER_AGENT = "postfix"
DELIVERY = "~.mail"
RECIPIENT_DELIMITER = "+"
LOGFILE_DEBUG = "~.tmda/logs/debug"
****ADDED  -  SENDMAIL = "/usr/sbin/sendmail" - ****ADDED

.tmda/log/incoming =
Date: Fri Nov 29 12:08:51 CST 2002
From: "austin mann" <austin>
Rept: "austin mann" <austin>
  To: john
Subj: Test TMDA II
Actn: CONFIRM action_incoming
(842)

Date: Fri Nov 29 12:08:51 CST 2002
From: "austin mann" <austin>
Rept: "austin mann" <austin>
  To: john
Subj: Test TMDA II
Actn: CONFIRM pending 1038593331.1100.msg
(842)

Unfortunatley nothing comes back, from tmda. I also added another fictituous
user that doesnt use TMDA, and if I log on POP, as the bogus user, joe, he
gets everything that I'm emailing the TMDA users, where I cc joe,
(mail the TMDA Users, cc the non TMDA user just to rule out some SMTP/POP
issue)

Was reading something in the mail archives on tmda, do users need a .tmadrc
file?
I dont have any, just config, crypt_key, and the lists,logs, pending, and
responses, sub dirs...

Dir listing below
  4 -rw-------    1 austin   austin        393 Nov 29 12:07 config
   4 -rw-------    1 austin   austin         41 Nov 27 23:32 crypt_key
   4 drwxrwxr-x    2 austin   austin       4096 Nov 28 13:37 lists
   4 drwxrwxr-x    2 austin   austin       4096 Nov 28 13:39 logs
   4 drwx------    2 austin   austin       4096 Nov 29 12:08 pending
   4 drwx------    5 austin   austin       4096 Nov 29 12:08 responses

Permissions? Is it that the postfix sendmail wrapper at /usr/sbin/sendmail
cant read pending & responses?
I set them to 777 for testing, and no change...
Date: Fri Nov 29 12:27:52 CST 2002
From: "austin mann" <austin>
Rept: "austin mann" <austin>
  To: john
Subj: Test TMDA Perm Change
Actn: CONFIRM pending 1038594472.1208.msg
(811)

No reply....
sendmail perms=
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       610996 Nov 27 18:53 sendmail

Postfix master.cf =
# ==========================================================================
# service type  private unpriv  chroot  wakeup  maxproc command + args
#               (yes)   (yes)   (yes)   (never) (50)
# ==========================================================================
smtp      inet  n       -       n       -       -       smtpd
pickup    fifo  n       -       n       60      1       pickup
cleanup   unix  n       -       n       -       0       cleanup
qmgr      fifo  n       -       n       300     1       qmgr
rewrite   unix  -       -       n       -       -       trivial-rewrite
bounce    unix  -       -       n       -       0       bounce
defer     unix  -       -       n       -       0       bounce
flush     unix  n       -       n       1000?   0       flush
smtp      unix  -       -       n       -       -       smtp
showq     unix  n       -       n       -       -       showq
error     unix  -       -       n       -       -       error
local     unix  -       n       n       -       -       local
virtual   unix  -       n       n       -       -       virtual
lmtp      unix  -       -       n       -       -       lmtp

Nothing is chroot'd so I would think perms arent the issue

the .forwards are '.forward' do they need to be .forward+austin ???

THANKS Mark and any one else that helps
-A


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