Dobes Vandermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've been considering adding a crm (http://crm114.sourceforge.net/)
> style spam filter to my mail pipeline, but unfortunately I can't
> quite figure out how I would integrate it with tmda.
>
> If I put it AFTER tmda in the pipeline, then I can't tell if a
> message was let through because it is on the white-list, or if it
> was just not known whether it was SPAM.

It doesn't make much sense to put it after TMDA since only legitimate
messages should make it past TMDA.

> If I put it in front of TMDA I lose the advantage of TMDA's
> filtering patterns for whitelists, and TMDA confirmations might
> potentially be identified as SPAM.

I think most users place such filters before TMDA, but I see your
point that somewhere in the middle of TMDA's processing is perhaps the
best marriage.

> Is there any hope of some sort of "plug-in" system for tmda to add
> custom filters based on special filtering techniques like these
> statistical means (Another option is the "razor" which uses a global
> database of spam message signatures which never has a false positive
> so it would help)?

I don't think you can do this with TMDA currently, but this is
something I could add. I think what you're asking for is a way to feed
the incoming message to an external program (such as razor-check) and
trigger an action based on the program's exit status?

For example, using the `source match action' format of a TMDA incoming
filter file:

  pipe razor-check drop

Meaning that the `pipe' action would feed the message contents to
`razor-check' and if a zero exit status is returned, the message would
be dropped because of the `drop' action. If non-zero, TMDA would
continue processing the incoming filter file.

Presumably a rule like this would be inserted at the end after your
blacklists/whitelists are checked.

> The reason I am approaching these systems is because I am generating
> a fair amount of traffic sending useless confirm messages

Would the above proposition be flexible enough to meet your needs?
What do others on the list think of this?

> and I am getting a lot bounces to my confirm messages

If you looking for a way to avoid seeing these bounces, see TMDA FAQ
4.7.
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