on Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:29:29AM -0000, Nick Rothwell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > Actually, that's how I run TMDA in what I call my "non-strict" mode: Only
> > > challenge those who managed to make their message look like Spam, as a last
> > > resort for them to get the message through. 
> > 
> > If it's already spam, and already tests as spam, why challenge it?
> 
> Just because something tests positive as spam, that doesn't mean it is
> spam. Spam filters are only heuristic. It's better to challenge a
> suspect message than just drop it (or bounce it, in which case you
> might as well challenge it instead).

The message clocked in at 8.4 points.  Odds that it was anything _but_
spam are quite small.  I'll call it four nines, though I'll have to dig
for some stats before I can give that full confidence.

> As you said:
> 
> > > Of course, no irony would be complete without the additional irony:
> > >
> > >    The site is using SpamAssassin, tagged the message as spam, and
> > >    challenged me on it anyway.
> 
> In other words, by your own logic, either you're a spammer, or spam
> filters don't work reliably. Would you rather than this site deleted
> your mail silently?

By my logic:  if I approved the message, the user would have been
spammed.  I've got a few days to do just that if I choose.  Another risk
of replying to spoofed senders.

Smoke that.

Peace.

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