On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:

> If you want to see a slick concept, look at Brad Templeton's current
> best plan for dealing with spam:
> 
>     http://www.templetons.com/brad/spam/endspam.html

Its a slick concept, but the devil is in the details.

- Throttle relays

Who provides these? If its a small group of major companies, why 
would they handle my mail for free? If its a widely distributed 
collective of throttle operators, how do you certify who can become a 
throttle-relay operator? Further, how do you disseminate the list in 
a compatible way (gigantic DNS replies to MX queries wouldnt be 
good).

The throttle relays part is a bad idea imo. The throttling can be
done by /any/ mail server, be they destination or transit MTAs -
there is no need for a cluster of throttle relays. This would require
addition of throttle functionality to all MTAs, however as otherwise
all MTAs would require the addition of throttle-discrimination 
functionality, this isnt a big deal. (end result to the 
'unaccountable' spammer is that their spam runs take ages to complete 
either way).

Note that there already exists a system to detect and discriminate 
high volume mass email from other email, the Distributed Checksum 
Clearinghouse:

        http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/

- Control/Criteria

Who decides the criteria by which an operator of an MTA can be judged 
accountable?

What will the criteria be for membership of the whitelist? A legally 
binding contract? Under what jurisdiction? If contracts, who pays for 
the legal proceedings to pursue breaches of contract? If the 
collective, does that imply a membership fee? And how much?

Who applies these criteria, and how are they applied, to operators of 
MTAs who wish to join the whitelist?

etc..

I think the control/criteria part of operating such a whitelist would
not easy to sort out, never mind the operational aspects, eg actually
trying to hold members who are in breach accountable.

regards,
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