On 11/3/03 7:15 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:22:48 -0500
> From: BISHOP Micha?l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: tmda-users Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> F. Even wrote:
> 
>> Here is what I have tried:
>> 
>> USERNAME = "fhe"
>> HOSTNAME = "elitists.org"
>> FULLNAME = "F. Even"
>> MESSAGE_FROM_STYLE = "angles"
>> CONFIRM_ADDRESS = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>> 
>> Now...the unix account name itself is something completely different, lets
>> call it "acctname."
>> 
>> Now, first of all, when the confirmation message, the message does not send
>> out using the "USERNAME" I have specified, but the unix acctname.  Yet, the
>> message is sent w/ the correct "FULLNAME" and "MESSAGE_FROM_STYLE."  Now,
>> when someone tries to confirm their message w/ the above config, it also
>> fails.  
>>  
>> 
> I honestly don't know where USERNAME is used -- it looks like it should
> be CONFIRM_ADDRESS which determines the base e-mail address of the
> confirmation sender.
> 
>> Someone sends me a message, they will get the confirmation request from the
>> "CONFIRM_ADDRESS" above, yet when they go to confirm, they will get a
>> response which is another confirmation request.  Now if I comment out the
>> "CONFIRM_ADDRESS" above and let tmda create the confirmation address using
>> the local unix "acctname," it then works.
>>  
>> 
> Check your incoming log, but my guess from the above would be that, due
> to the alias, the envelope recipient is being lost.  TMDA sees it as
> fresh incoming unsolicited mail, and reacts accordingly.  You'll need to
> tell your MTA either to set $RECIPIENT properly going into TMDA, or
> write a header with the correct recipient and tell TMDA to check that.

It looks like it may very well have done that.  I've put the transcript of a
test below....and it appears that no matter what, it says "Delivered-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  How would I go about re-configuring this behavior
with TMDA and postfix to make this work?  ....or has anyone done this, and
do they have any configs or faqs they can point me towards.

> I'm sure there's a valid reason, but out of curiosity....  If the sender
> presumably addressed something to the e-mail address in question, how
> are you hiding anything by not using it as the base of the confirm address?

Up until TMDA, I've been fairly anal about filling up my aliases file with
different addresses so that if an alias was getting spammed, I could just
kill the alias and still protect my primary address.  I would like to reduce
spam and protect my primary addresses in the process....as if they are not
exposed, I'm hoping that in some small measure, the primary address will not
receive spam.

...and this acct. that I've given an example of below is this:

USERNAME = "hostmaster"
HOSTNAME = "elitists.org"
FULLNAME = "NS Admin"
MESSAGE_FROM_STYLE = "angles"
CONFIRM_ADDRESS = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"


Thanks for any info or help,
Frank


Basically what I'm showing here is the initial test message and then the
confirmation message that got stuck in the pending queue:

show 1067910510.53235.msg
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from gv.elitists.org (gv.elitists.org [64.40.88.206])
        by elitists.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DFC30B
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon,  3 Nov 2003 19:48:27 -0600 (CST)
Received: from [192.168.1.103] (h202.elitists.org [64.40.88.202])
        by gv.elitists.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50889EC1C
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon,  3 Nov 2003 19:48:29 +0000 (GMT)
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1331
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:48:03 -0600
Subject: test
From: Frank Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
X-TMDA-Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

test


Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from gv.elitists.org (gv.elitists.org [64.40.88.206])
        by elitists.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7A030B
        for 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon,
3 Nov 2003 19:49:19
-0600 (CST)
Received: from [192.168.1.103] (h202.elitists.org [64.40.88.202])
        by gv.elitists.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2531AEC0B
        for 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon,
3 Nov 2003 19:49:20
+0000 (GMT)
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1331
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:48:53 -0600
Subject: Re: Please confirm your message
From: Frank Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
X-TMDA-Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Below is the initial message coming in, then the confirmation message
getting stuck in the queue:

Date: Mon Nov 3 19:48:30 CST 2003
From: Frank Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj: test
Actn: CONFIRM pending 1067910510.53235.msg
(762)

Date: Mon Nov 3 19:49:21 CST 2003
From: Frank Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj: Re: Please confirm your message
Actn: CONFIRM action_incoming
(974)

Date: Mon Nov 3 19:49:21 CST 2003
From: Frank Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj: Re: Please confirm your message
Actn: CONFIRM pending 1067910561.53250.msg
(974)

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