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I've been looking at my pending directory and found a number of
tmda-users posts in there that shouldn't have been.  I subscribed with
the address [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I've got a
.qmail-list-default file in the vmailmgr directory that is supposed to
hand list messages without using tmda (spamassassin only).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/virtual]$ cat .qmail-list-default
| /etc/kludge/mailquotacheck.sh $LOCAL
| preline spamc -f | /usr/bin/vdeliver
| bouncesaying "This address does not exist."

However it looks like this message (shown below) was instead processed
by my .qmail-default file which uses tmda

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/virtual]$ cat .qmail-default
| /etc/kludge/mailquotacheck.sh $LOCAL
| preline spamc -f | preline /usr/local/src/tmda-1.0/bin/tmda-filter
- --vhome-script /usr/local/src/tmda-1.0/contrib/vmailmgr-vdir.sh
| bouncesaying "This address does not exist."

I've checked my inbox and trash and I never recieved the message below.
~ Checking the message it's obvious it was challenged because it scored
over 3.0 from spamassassin, like I have in my incoming filter file:

#Confirm bad messages
headers '^X-Spam-Status:\sYes' confirm

But it should never have been processed by tmda in the first place, does
anyone have a clue what's going on?  I'm pretty sure it's a
configuration error on my part, but I'm not sure where.

HERE IS THE ORIGINAL MAIL

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/virtual/users/chris_berry/.tmda/pending]$ cat
1075332190.15234.msg
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 15208 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jan 2004 23:23:07 -0000
Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by mercury by uid 503 with
qmail-scanner-1.20
~ (clamuko: 0.65. spamassassin: 2.61.
Clear:RC:0(66.139.78.221):SA:1(3.3/3.0):.
~ Processed in 2.770841 secs); 28 Jan 2004 23:23:07 -0000
Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221])
~  by mercury.jmcollections.net ([192.168.1.25])
~  with ESMTP via TCP; 28 Jan 2004 23:23:03 -0000
Received: from justine.libertine.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
~        by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
~        id 0BE683A0061; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:23:01 -0600 (CST)
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from mail.paradigm-omega.net
~        (adsl-68-120-71-54.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [68.120.71.54])
~        by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1324C3A005A
~        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:22:58 -0600 (CST)
Received: by mail.paradigm-omega.net (Postfix, from userid 501)
~        id 813BB6429C; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:23:03 -0800 (PST)
Received: by omega.paradigm-omega.net (tmda-sendmail, from uid 501);
~        Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:23:03 -0800 (PST)
Organization: Paradigm-Omega, LLC
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:22:58 -0800
User-Agent: KMail/1.5
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-No-Archive: yes
X-Praetor: Dies Irae
X-Imperium: SPQR
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
~  charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Robin Lynn Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0 (Cannonade)
X-TMDA-Fingerprint: 2FSV6BYWLnEb7krKBvWAhy3njsk
Subject: Re: Scolding opinions on Challenge / Response systems.....
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Robin Lynn Frank
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Id: TMDA User Discussion <tmda-users.tmda.net>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users>,
~        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Archive: <http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users>
List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Subscribe: <http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users>,
~        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Spam-Report:
~        *  0.5 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DIALUP RBL: NJABL: dialup sender did
non-local SMTP
~        *      [68.120.71.54 listed in dnsbl.njabl.org]
~        *  2.5 RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK RBL: Sent directly from dynamic IP address
~        *      [68.120.71.54 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net]
~        *  0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS RBL: SORBS: sender is listed in SORBS
~        *      [68.120.71.54 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net]
~        *  0.1 RCVD_IN_NJABL RBL: Received via a relay in dnsbl.njabl.org
~        *      [68.120.71.54 listed in dnsbl.njabl.org]
X-Spam-Level: ***
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on
~        mercury
X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=3.3 required=3.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK,
~        RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DIALUP,RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no
~        version=2.61
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-TMDA-Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wednesday 28 January 2004 11:31, Jason R. Mastaler  wrote:
| Robin Lynn Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > The big problem these folks have is that with so much spam/virus
| > mail forging headers that the challenge will go to someone who
| > didn't send you any email in the fist place.
|
| What's wrong with installing a virus scanner on the mail server?
| What problem?

I have one and it is quite effective...after its virus signature
database has
been updated.  We normally update every 8 hours unless someone sees
suspiscious traffic.  So we go to lunch and 10 or 20 forgeries arrive.  What
then?

This happened last night.  A windows machine in Thailand got the latest worm
and sent an email bearing my address to mandrakesoft.com in France.  Their
antivirus software with an IQ of minus 4, sends a notice to me letting me
know I have a virus.  Should I have sent a challenge?

Don't get me wrong I am all for C/R.  I just feel a need to apply it
judiciously.
- --
Robin Lynn Frank | Director of Operations | Paradigm-Omega, LLC
Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war!
Email acceptance policy:  http://paradigm-omega.com/email_policy.php



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Chris Berry
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Systems Administrator
JM Associates & Coast Business Service

"Some days you fix the multi-million dollar machine, other days the $12
stapler kicks your ass."

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