Boy of boy Candis, you hit the nail right on the head.  "Fight of Flight" 
response, for sure, and I think you're also right about most people choosing 
the flight response.  Years ago I used to go to Lupus group meetings at one of 
the hospitals in downtown Seattle.  My husband actually went with me once, and 
the next time I went all the ladies came up to me and said "you're still 
married?" - ALL of their husbands left!  There were about 45 or so of us who 
went regularly and we were all in our 30's and 40's.  I was absolutely shocked.

Linda in Eagle, Idaho where it is actually springtime for the last 2 weeks.  
Yeah
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  To: Larry Throne<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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  I agree with you Larry.  Stress does kill but not only the stress, I think 
any major illness also makes others, not only strangers but also "love" ones 
nearest you,  look at themselves and realize how vulnerable they and their own 
lifes' are to the unknown and it really scares them!  Whenever faced with 
adversity of any kind comes the "fight or flight" response.  Sorry to say, I 
think most people choose the flight response - our society is known as the 
"throw away" society.



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  From: "Larry Throne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "TM" <[email protected]>
  Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:07:51 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
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  Steve, 
  Sorry to hear that you've experienced marital problems. With TM or any other 
life altering event there is a lot of stress. Stress kills. It kills people, 
marriages, hope, understanding and love. Your right that being a good father is 
the important thing. But you've got to remember that requires taking care of 
your self. Have you thought about seeking help? Seeing a therapist? Is there a 
single parents group in your area? Your church?


  Many years ago I was writing a paper on persons with spinal cord injury and 
relationships. I don't remember the exact numbers but I was surprised to find 
out that when it is the male that is injured, the relationship usually ends 
within the first 18 months. Something like 70% of the time. But when it is the 
female, only about 8% of the relationships end during the same time frame.  
Hmmmmmm

  I know that doesn't help much but it does show that it may not have been you. 
It was the TM.

  Get out, find someone that cares. Your the captain of your boat.

  Larry in Oklahoma who is so thankful it didn't snow!





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    Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:13:02 +0000
    Subject: [TMIC] Unidentified subject!


    Just wondering if due to TM if anybody has had problems in there marriage.  
Because I got a divorce a year ago.  And today my kids told me that mommy has a 
boyfriend. And it hurts really bad, But there's nothing I can do about it!  I 
know i'm feeling sorry for myself.  I've gottin good at that over the past 
years!  But as long as my kids are happy and i'm a good father that is the 
important part.  Right?

                                   Steve Jabs from Pa

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