My apologies to all. I am cranky today (and should NEVER call anybody a jackass). I really did not know what OT meant.
If anybody has any information on spastic bladders, I would love to have some information. (although, I fear I have just alienated my peers). I am SO tired of having to go to the bathroom every 10 minutes. thanks and apologies, Susan On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mary Anne Egan <[email protected]>wrote: > you know I thin not everyone uses this site the same way. I have been > reading the posts for years and there is a group of people who always email > OT comments and yes there should be a sensitivity to the fact that some of > us/them are isolated but can I ask why can't the OT emails go directly to > the individuals who want to have a political chat or discussion off topic. > I can understand both sides, but I pose the question. It seems like the > sensitivity/forgiveness is asked only on one side of this issue. > Mary Anne > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Dalton Garis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *Can we just lighten up here a little?* >> >> We're all suffering, we are all isolated by our disease and our >> disabilities, some are housebound, while a lucky few of us can still go out. >> For some, this group is about all there is. So, if someone strays from the >> straight and narrow, because of being hard up for some other level of >> exchange, we should try to be a little more forgiving. >> >> Dalton >> >> >> From: Susan Ebling <[email protected]> >> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:21:58 -0500 >> To: Dalton Garis <[email protected]> >> Cc: john snodgrass <[email protected]>, transverse myelitis < >> [email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:OT Fwd: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda OT >> >> I guess that relative 'new comers' to this group never got the "OT" >> message. I'm sorry to have interrupted this pertinent email exchange. Lord >> knows, there are not enough topics related to TM to discuss. Jackass. >> >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Dalton Garis <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> It said "OT" on it, right? So, what's the problem? >>> >>> Dalton H. Garis >>> Associate Professor of Economics >>> And Petroleum Market Behavior >>> The Petroleum Institute >>> P.O. Box 2533, Umm al Nar >>> Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates >>> Office: +971-02-607-5070/5297 >>> Mobile: +971-50-668-5760 >>> >>> From: Susan Ebling <[email protected]> >>> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:43:09 -0500 >>> To: john snodgrass <[email protected]> >>> Cc: transverse myelitis <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:OT Fwd: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda OT >>> Resent-From: <[email protected]> >>> Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:44:04 -0700 >>> >>> with all due respect, THIS is not the forum for this email. . . >>> >>> I need information on TM and look forward to it. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:34 AM, john snodgrass <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> sad part is many many many dont know and dont care these days >>>> >>>> --- On *Thu, 6/2/11, [email protected] <[email protected]>* wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [TMIC] Fwd: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda OT >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:09 AM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> BCC: [email protected] >>>> Sent: 6/1/2011 11:49:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time >>>> Subj: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> comments on Jane Fonda >>>> * >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please take time to at least read this & the first hand accounts, than >>>> let your heart do what you will. >>>> >>>> >>>> *She can lead her present life the way she wants and perhaps SHE can >>>> forget the past, but we DO NOT have to stand by without comment to see that >>>> she is "honored" as a "Woman of the Century". * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Never Forgive A Traitor >>>> >>>> For those of you too young to remember Hanoi Jane is a bad person and >>>> did >>>> some terrible things during the Vietnam war. Things that can not be >>>> forgiven!!!! >>>> >>>> For those who served and/or died. . . >>>> >>>> NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR. SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!! >>>> >>>> and now OBAMA wants to honor her......!!!! >>>> >>>> In Memory of LT. C.Thomsen Wieland who spent 100 days at the Hanoi >>>> Hilton >>>> >>>> IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT >>>> EVERYONE >>>> WILL KNOW!!!!!! >>>> >>>> She really is a traitor. >>>> >>>> A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA >>>> >>>> This is for all the kids born in the 70's and after who do not remember, >>>> and >>>> didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older >>>> brothers >>>> and sisters had to bear.. >>>> >>>> Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the '100 Women of the Century.' >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> BARBRA WALTERS WRITES: >>>> >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never >>>> known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but >>>> specific >>>> men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam >>>> >>>> >>>> The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry >>>> Driscoll, a River Rat. >>>> >>>> In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in >>>> Ho >>>> Lo Prison the ' Hanoi Hilton.' >>>> >>>> Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in >>>> clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace >>>> Activist' the 'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received. >>>> >>>> >>>> He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the >>>> subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant 's feet, >>>> which >>>> sent that officer berserk. >>>> >>>> In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which >>>> permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied >>>> application of a wooden baton. >>>> >>>> >From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent >>>> 6 >>>> years in the ' Hanoi Hilton',,, the first three of which his family only >>>> knew >>>> he was 'missing in action'. His wife lived on faith that he was still >>>> alive. >>>> His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in >>>> preparation >>>> for a 'peace delegation' visit. >>>> >>>> They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that >>>> they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of >>>> paper, >>>> with his Social Security Number on it , in the palm of his hand. >>>> >>>> >>>> When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, >>>> shaking >>>> each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: 'Aren't you >>>> sorry you bombed babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment >>>> from your benevolent captors?' Believing this HAD to be an act, they >>>> each >>>> palmed her their sliver of paper. >>>> >>>> She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and >>>> once >>>> the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she >>>> turned >>>> to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper.. >>>> >>>> >>>> Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost >>>> number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her >>>> actions >>>> that day. >>>> >>>> >>>> I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was >>>> captured >>>> by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held >>>> prisoner for over 5 years. >>>> >>>> I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in >>>> Cambodia ; >>>> and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi . My North Vietnamese captors >>>> deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a >>>> leprosarium in Banme Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle >>>> near >>>> the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My >>>> normal >>>> weight is 170 lbs) >>>> >>>> We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals....' >>>> >>>> When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist >>>> political >>>> officer if I would be willing to meet with her.. >>>> >>>> I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs >>>> received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by the >>>> North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as 'humane and lenient.' >>>> >>>> >>>> Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with >>>> my >>>> arms outstretched with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and >>>> beaten >>>> with a bamboo cane. >>>> >>>> I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. >>>> I >>>> asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did >>>> answer >>>> me. >>>> >>>> These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be >>>> honored >>>> as part of '100 Years of Great Women.' Lest we forget....' 100 Years of >>>> Great Women' should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with >>>> the >>>> blood of so many patriots. >>>> >>>> There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi >>>> Jane's >>>> participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time >>>> to >>>> forward to as many people as you possibly can.. It will eventually end >>>> up on >>>> her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. >>>> >>>> RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, >>>> USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, >>>> Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. >>>> >>>> IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER STATUS WILL CHANGE* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Susan L. Ebling >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Susan L. Ebling >> > > > > -- > Mary Anne Egan > The Stettler Group, Inc. > [email protected] > (908) 806-3001 > (908) 806-3113 Fax > > -- Susan L. Ebling
