Wow, you just answered so many of my questions. I have a neurologist
appointment that took a month to get, on August 1. I have been so worried
and sometimes afraid to go to sleep because usually when these twitches, or
my head jerking or whatever is going on happens when I wake up. Whether in
the middle of the night or in the morning but is usually MUCH worse if I
wake up in the middle of the night. I have even ended up in the ER when I
woke from a nap and had what my husband called convulsions. I could go on
and on but I know we are on a whole other topic. But, THANK
YOU.......didn't know what all that was. Scary.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:31 PM, john snodgrass <[email protected]> wrote:

> this is good news!
>
> and found this out as far as a definition of one of the nice things we
> suffer with:
>
> *Clonus* (from the Greek for "violent, confused motion") is a series of
> involuntary, rhythmic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythmic>, muscular
> contractions <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_contraction> and
> relaxations. Clonus is a sign of 
> certainneurological<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurological> conditions,
> particularly associated with upper motor 
> neuron<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_motor_neuron>
>  lesions <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesion> involving descending motor
> pathways, and in many cases is, accompanied by 
> spasticity<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spasticity> (another
> form of hyperexcitability <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperexcitability>
> ).[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonus#cite_note-Reference_2-0> Unlike
> small, spontaneous twitches known as 
> fasciculations<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciculation> (usually
> caused by lower motor 
> neuron<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_motor_neuron>pathology),
> clonus causes large motions that are usually initiated by a 
> reflex<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflex>.
> Studies have shown clonus beat 
> frequency<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency> to
> range from 3- 8 Hz (Hertz <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz>) on
> average, and may last a few seconds to several minutes depending on the
> patient’s 
> condition.[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonus#cite_note-Reference_2-0>
>
>
> (i called it "the jerks")
>
> {º¿º}
>    ~
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Janice Nichols <[email protected]>
> *To:* Bridget Skinner <[email protected]>; [email protected];
> [email protected]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 27, 2012 12:04 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [TMIC] try this
>
>   Guys, this is really encouraging!!    I am going to try it too.
> Janice
>
>
>  *From:* Bridget Skinner <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 27, 2012 10:07 AM
> *To:* [email protected] ; [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [TMIC] try this
>
> *Sorry I twitched and hit the send button too early. Anyway, it didn't
> bother me at all. I used it knees to toes. Made all the difference in the
> world. When I have taken my baclofen and still hurt this is the way to go.
> You would think morphine and norco would take care of these sensations but
> they take care of other types of pain - not spastisity or nerve pain. Thank
> you for the tip. It's nice to use something that I can pick up something at
> the store that really works and I don't need to see a doc first.
> *
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Bridget Skinner <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> *I believe I didn't send this to the whole group when I replied. And if I
> did, I apologize for sending it again. *
>
>
>
> *I was concerned about using the Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel
> because of my inability to feel heat but my husband had a good idea -- just
> try it on one little spot and if it bothers me than its an easy wipe off.
> Well it didn't *
>
> ---------------------------
> I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY
> helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc is going to keep me at that. So, I thought I
> would just get used to what it isn't taking care of. Went to CVS this
> evening and purchased the "Fast Acting Therapy Aspercreme Heat Pain
> Relieving Gel" Hopefully this is the right kind. (little nervous since I
> can't feel heat) But I am so excited to see if this works. I will use it
> tonight and let y'all know how it worked for me.
>
> Please, if anyone has tried it and has problems with topical pain or the
> inability to feel heat let me know if it makes a difference.
>
> THANK YOU!!!!
>
> Forwarded conversation
> Subject: *[TMIC] try this*
> ------------------------
>
> From: *jeff bernier* <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM
> To: [email protected], [email protected]
>
>
>   for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i
> learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get
> spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works
> outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
> ----------
> From: *john snodgrass* <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>
>
>   i had heard of using hot muscle rub but never tried it but i might now.
>
> thanks Jeff
>
>    ------------------------------
> *From:* jeff bernier <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:16 AM
> *Subject:* [TMIC] try this
>
>   for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i
> learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get
> spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works
> outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
>
>
>
> ----------
> From: *Janice Nichols* <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM
> To: jeff bernier <[email protected]>, [email protected],
> [email protected]
>
>
>   Thanks.    I take baclofen and it works most every nite, but then I
> have the occasional problem nite.     Will try aspercream.
> Janice
>
>
>  *From:* jeff bernier <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:16 AM
> *To:* [email protected] ; [email protected]
> *Subject:* [TMIC] try this
>
>    for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i
> learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get
> spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works
> outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
>
> ----------
> From: **<[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:43 PM
> To: jeff bernier <[email protected]>, [email protected],
> [email protected]
>
>
> **
> Do you put it directly on the muscles that are spasing?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>  ------------------------------
> *From: *jeff bernier <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:16:02 -0700 (PDT)
>  *To: *<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *[TMIC] try this
>
>   for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i
> learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get
> spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works
> outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
>
> ----------
> From: *Bridget Skinner* <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:59 PM
> To: Janice Nichols <[email protected]>
>
>
> I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY
> helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc is going to keep me at that. So, I thought I
> would just get used to what it isn't taking care of. Went to CVS this
> evening and purchased the "Fast Acting Therapy Aspercreme Heat Pain
> Relieving Gel" Hopefully this is the right kind. (little nervous since I
> can't feel heat) But I am so excited to see if this works. I will use it
> tonight and let y'all know how it worked for me.
>
> Please, if anyone has tried it and has problems with topical pain or the
> inability to feel heat let me know if it makes a difference.
>
> THANK YOU!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>

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