Dalton,
That is just not how I see it. I see my citizenship as a matter
of responsibility to provide for myself, my family, and last but definitely not
lease for those less fortunate who cannot provide for themselves. I think it is
those last eight words where you and I disagree. I would like to see the
article about the little boy because I think you have used this to dramatize
your ranting. I just don’t believe it was only a matter of not having $86.00
for a dental exam. Medicare and Medicaid or not Texas programs. They are
federal programs that are paid for through taxation just like national defense
and the other programs you mentioned. Every person (except for government
employees and teachers) in the U.S who earns wages pays 1.5% of their gross
wages for Medicare and their employer pays a matching 1.5%. Just for the record
America is known by not only how we treat the weakest among us in our own
nation but by how we treat others throughout the world. No other country gives
so freely to others as does the American government and the individual citizens
of this country.
Cody in Austin
From: suerdlagpunga [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:21 PM
To: Cody
Subject: RE: [TMIC] From hot, sticky, uncomfortable Essex
It is a matter of citizenship what people expect to receive. Nothing is free.
Medical care should be given but it is not free; rather it should be paid for
through general taxation, just as are national defense, roads and highways and
elementary and secondary education already, all of which are paid from tax re
revenues. But it is not free.
For the supplying the bare essentials of life, let us be known by how we treat
the weakest among us and not the strongest. That is the true test of a Nation's
greatness.
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From: Cody <[email protected]>
Date: 07/16/2013 18:50 (GMT-05:00)
To: 'Dalton Garis' <[email protected]>,TMIC <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [TMIC] From hot, sticky, uncomfortable Essex
Dalton,
I just refuse to believe the story about the little boy who died from a Sepses
infection was only attributable to not having $86.00 to be treated by a
dentist. If they didn’t have the $86.00 for the dentist how did they have money
for the medical treatment. I don’t know about medical services in Louisiana or
New York but in Texas I know that we do have a program that provides for
medical treatment and dental care for less fortunate children. It is called
CHIPS. I very much support this program. Also FYI I have been in the hospital
four or five times since I was diagnosed with TM. Medicare paid for 80% of the
hospital cost, including extended ICU care, as well as 80% of my doctors all of
whom were specialist. I am proud to say that I was more than happy to pay my
20%. Medicare paid these cost at very significant discounted rates. My 20% was
also based on these discounted rates. Even with this I had to pay several
thousand dollars for my portion.
I cannot believe that anyone thinks for some reason that their country owes
them free anything medical, retirement, or whatever. I think this country has
some of the best medical care in the world. Many of the best physicians in the
world receive their education and intern training in this country.
I am appalled that you are anyone else thinks they are entitled to have so much
given to them. Since you are an economist you of all people should know there
is no such thing as a free lunch. The cost of all of the things you want for
free must be borne by your fellow citizens of this proud nation.
I am reminded of this quote from former President Gerald Ford:
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big
enough to take from you everything you have.
Presidential address to a joint session of Congress (12 August 1974)
Cody in Austin, Texas
From: Dalton Garis [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:31 PM
To: Dalton Garis; I.WHIDDETT; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [TMIC] From hot, sticky, uncomfortable Essex
. . . And [please let me rant for a while]
Why doesn't this country have free medical insurance for all its citizens ???
What is that ideological secret that this country presumes to understand that
the other developed countries, all of which provide free medical care (and
decent retirement, child care for working parents and free higher education,
also, for that matter), has failed to grasp?
How many dollars could be saved with free insurance, thus preventing much more
serious and costly complications later on? I read some time ago of a boy in
Louisiana who died of Sepses, the deadly blood infection, because his parents
lacked the $86.oo needed to have him treated by a dentist for an abscessed
tooth!
Aren't economies for the purpose of providing for its citizens and societies a
better life? Or, are they ideologies with names that we are to worship and for
the purity which the welfare of society's members are to be sacrificed ??? Why
are we being crucified on the cross of ideological purity? Why are forced to
worship names, rather than working to establish an economy—regardless of its
label—that serves the needs of all the people in a just and fair manner?
[Thank you for letting me rant for a minute, because I hate, as a citizen of
this proud nation, to pay even one dollar for medical services.]
Dalton Garis
Flushing, Queens
New York, USA
From: Dalton Garis <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:59:27 -0700
To: "I.WHIDDETT" <[email protected]>, "<[email protected]>"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [TMIC] From hot, sticky, uncomfortable Essex
Resent-From: <[email protected]>
Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:58:41 -0700 (PDT)
My brother;
Who lives in Connecticut and has contracted Lyme disease three times, clearly
recalls my getting a tick bite and seeing the tell-tale bull's eye reaction at
the bite site on the back of my leg, typical of Lyme disease. I became sick,
but lacking any medical insurance didn't do anything about it, and eventually
got better on my own.
Then, years later, I contract slow-onset TM, get very sick, then mostly
recover, with the exception of getting seizures due to an "anomaly" on the
brainstem; plus the usual constant aches, bee-sting pains all over, fatigue and
weakness. I take pregabelin, gabapentin, prozac, and dilation for seizures.
My brother is convinced that the TM was caused by the latent effects of
in-dwelling Lyme bacteria, and I am partially convinced by his point of view;
partially, because it was in the Middle East--that caldron of diseases--where I
caught, and was diagnosed as having, TM. It was likely a contributing factor
that could have increased the likelihood of getting TM in the first place, and
also likely changed the nature of my symptoms. That is, I could have gotten
some other bug which, when combined with the Lyme disease bacteria, led to
developing TM (or also could have been MS, for that matter).
It's getting tricky out there, with a host of new diseases that I cause
on-going infections only partially treated successfully at the time, but I
believe increases the likelihood later on of getting something a lot more
serious like MS, TM, or even that killer ALS.
Dalton Garis
Flushing, Queens
New York, USA
On 7/16/13 5:35 AM, "I.WHIDDETT" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi group, typical Brit, moan about the non-summer, it finally arrives and now
I'm too hot!!
I've just been reading on Facebook about a little girl in Aberdeen who was
paralysed from the chest down but after intensive physio has beaten the odds
and made a good recovery. Brilliant outcome, I think we all especially hate
youngsters to get this horrible condition. Unusually, they are giving a reason
for her TM. It seems it was caused by a tick bite. I'm sure I remember that
someone in this group has blamed a mosquito bite. As though we don't hate
these bloodsucking pests enough already....!
Iris
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