Change Lee:
>> Though I have to say Raph was overboard...with attacking Mikey so
>> much...

Raph:
> Nah...Mike was trying to push his way in, when they were listening to
> Splinter on the Shell Cell...so Raph shoved him away. Mike got goofy
> with the "Did he mention me?", Raph shoved him again (Don & Leo also
> reacted to Mike's comment).  At the van, as you commented, Mike was 
> tormenting Raph.  One gets the impression that this isn't the first 
> time Mike's done this sort of thing, either.

*chuckles at the irony of how Raph is standing up for himself*

I have to agree with Raph.  They were trying to capture the overall
rowdiness between those two.  If you remeber in the old Mirage comics,
they were throwing each other around quite a bit it seemed.

My only wonder, is why Mike falls over so easily without giving back
any resistance to keep his balance.  Seems kind of un-ninja-like there.

> > Perhaps I just don't agree with pushing people down a hole *Shrugs*
> Maybe I'm just trying to defend Raph, for some reason ;-)

Nah... Lee's just taking sides to the passiveness.  I noticed a few
other fans who are generally ultra nice thought Raph was being too
rough.  

However, they are guys... and also Ninja (Turtles).  So I assume they
are used to playing rough.  I also noticed from the many Asian movies
I've seen, I can see how it's influencing this.

I'll be watching to see if Mike and Raph goof around when Splinter is
not looking.  They seem to only do so when he's not around. Getting
"bapped" or hit on the head with a stick is also a common form of
martial art discipline when one is misbehaving.  With is why Don
thwacked Mike on the head for making fun of Splinter (the master). 
That, or having to do a hundred knuckle pushups, or backflips!  ;p


~HT

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