Well, it still behaves the same for me in xterm. vim overwrites what is
in the terminal, it doesn't push it into the scrollback.

There is no way for any application to control what the terminal keeps
around in the scrollback, it's entirely up to the terminal. Well, aside
from the "clear scrollback" escape sequence on the Linux console.

Whatever configuration you have must mean that whatever screen uses to
clear the terminal usually pushes things into the scrollback, if we can
figure out what that is and it isn't too complicated we might be able to
do it in tmux, but it will not work in all cases and definitely not with
panes.

I'm not wild about the idea of using a bunch of newlines instead of
clear in terminfo. If I can reproduce it would help... I'll try rxvt if
I have time when I get home.

Did you try xterm itself? TERM is set to xterm? 

Can you run screen inside script, do ls -la so it scrolls then run vim,
then exit and send me the typescript file?



On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 10:40:07AM -0800, Gustavo Baratto wrote:
>    Hi Nicholas...
>    Yes, I'm talking about the terminal scrollback, not tmux/screen history.
>    The use case I'm describing is a tiny bit different than yours: No need to
>    exit vi.*
>    Just type 'ls -la', open a file with 'vi', then scrollback your terminal
>    before you exit 'vi'.
>    You'll see that everything that was on the screen is overwritten when
>    using tmux.
>    When using screen, the content of the terminal before I enter 'vi' is
>    moved up, and nothing is lost and I can access the content just by
>    scrolling up the mouse.
>    Basically, I don't want to lose anything that was written to the terminal.
>    I don't have*"altscreen off" in my .screenrc, but the default seems to be
>    off.
>    I also don't have either*.Xresources or .Xdefaults in my home directory,
>    my screen version is "4.00.03jw4 (FAU) 2-May-06", and tmux version 1.5
>    I'm on ubuntu oneiric (10/11), using konsole, but I tried gnome-terminal,
>    aterm, etc all emulating xterm (I did try rxvt as well). Same behavior.
>    Thanks a bunch for the help Nicholas :)
>    g.
>    On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Nicholas Marriott
>    <[1]nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>      Are you still talking about the terminal scrollback rather than internal
>      tmux/screen history?
> 
>      Because this is not the case for me, even if I add "altscreen off" to
>      your .screenrc below, screen behaves like I would expect - if I do ls
>      -la then vi then exit vi and scroll up into the terminal scroll buffer,
>      what is in the scrollback buffer is whatever screen happened to scroll
>      off the screen, usually the output of ls cut off (so if I have a two
>      line terminal and ls displays four lines a,b,c,d then a and b are left
>      in the scrollback).
> 
>      What xterm version are you using on what platform? What is in your
>      .Xresources/.Xdefaults? What screen version?
> 
>      I take it TERM is set to xterm?
> 
>      On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 05:57:18PM -0800, Gustavo Baratto wrote:
>      > * *Hi Nicholas...
>      > * *Try running "ls -la", then opening any file with 'vi'.
>      > * *When 'vi' starts, the result of 'ls -la' get overwritten in tmux.
>      > * *With screen or the plain terminal, the result of 'ls -la' get moved
>      up but
>      > * *not overwritten, so I never lose what was printed on the terminal.
>      > * *This is my .tmux.conf:
>      > * *----
>      > * *set -g history-limit * * * 200000
>      > * *set -g set-titles * * * * *on
>      > * *set -g set-titles-string * '[#I:#W:#T]'
>      > * *set -g status-justify * * *right *
>      > * *set -g status-keys * * * * vi
>      > * *set -g status-left * * * * '#[fg=red][#I:#W]'
>      > * *set -g status-left-length *50
>      > * *set -g status-left-attr * *"none"
>      > * *set -g status-right * * * *''
>      > * *set -g status-right-length 1
>      > * *set -g status-bg * * * * * *'yellow'
>      > * *set -g default-terminal * * *"screen-256color"
>      > * *set -g terminal-overrides *'*:smcup@:rmcup@'
>      > * *setw -g window-status-current-format
>      > * **'#[fg=red,underscore,blink][#I:#W#F]'
>      > * *setw -g window-status-attr * * * * * *dim
>      > * *setw -g window-status-format * * * * *'#I:#W#F'
>      > * *setw -g mode-keys * * * * * * * * * * vi
>      > * *setw -g mode-mouse * * * * * * * * * off*
>      > * *setw -g alternate-screen * * * * * * *off
>      > * *----
>      > * *And this is my .screenrc:
>      > * *----
>      > * *termcapinfo xterm ti@:te@
>      > * *defscrollback 100000
>      > * *----
>      > * *On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Nicholas Marriott
>      > * *<[1][2]nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>      >
>      > * * *I don't really understand what you are asking.
>      >
>      > * * *tmux has no control over what goes into the terminal scrollback
>      and
>      > * * *when, nor does screen, it's entirely up to the terminal.
>      >
>      > * * *If I run screen with altscreen off it leaves the terminal
>      scrollback
>      > * * *unaltered, same as tmux w/o smcup in terminfo.
>      >
>      > * * *What do you think they are doing differently?
>      >
>      > * * *On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 03:07:13PM -0800, Gustavo Baratto wrote:
>      > * * *> * *Hi Nicholas...
>      > * * *> * *Most people I surveyed (including myself) use the terminal's
>      > * * *scrollback
>      > * * *> * *instead of screen/tmux history. Not a very statistically
>      relevant
>      > * * *sample,
>      > * * *> * *but these are all seasoned sysadmins coming from different
>      > * * *backgrounds, so
>      > * * *> * *I suppose there is good demand for such feature.
>      > * * *> * *That works perfectly in screen, and it would be great if we
>      have
>      > * * *both
>      > * * *> * *options for scrollback in the terminal and tmux history to
>      satisfy
>      > * * *all
>      > * * *> * *tastes :)
>      > * * *> * *Thanks a bunch.
>      > * * *> * *g.
>      > * * *>
>      > * * *> * *On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Nicholas Marriott
>      > * * *> * *<[1][2][3]nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>      > * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *tmux already moves the content into the history on clear.
>      > * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 11:32:02AM -0800, Gustavo Baratto
>      wrote:
>      > * * *> * * *> * *Hi guys...
>      > * * *> * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *Is there any news regarding this?
>      > * * *> * * *> * *I'm on tmux 1.5, and having problem with tmux
>      overwriting
>      > * * *existing
>      > * * *> * * *content
>      > * * *> * * *> * *on the terminal when starting vi.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *I cannot send clear as '\E[H\E[2J' with either
>      > * * *terminal-override:
>      > * * *> * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *set -g terminal-overrides
>      *'*:smcup@:rmcup@:clear=\E[H\E[2J'
>      > * * *> * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *or by compiling my own terminal.
>      > * * *> * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *Recapping what the problem is (in the well crafted
>      words of
>      > * * *Fabian
>      > * * *> * * *in an
>      > * * *> * * *> * *earlier post):
>      > * * *> * * *> * *---
>      > * * *> * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *What typically happens is something like this for a 4
>      line
>      > * * *> * * *terminal:
>      > * * *> * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *shell% ls
>      > * * *> * * *> * *file1
>      > * * *> * * *> * *file2
>      > * * *> * * *> * *shell%
>      > * * *> * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *Now if I would type vim as command (and execute it by
>      > * * *pressing
>      > * * *> * * *enter),
>      > * * *> * * *> * *what I want to happen, is that the above 4 lines are
>      moved
>      > * * *up in my
>      > * * *> * * *> * *terminal's buffer, and Vim to use "new space" below
>      what was
>      > * * *> * * *already on
>      > * * *> * * *> * *the screen.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *---
>      > * * *> * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *I really like tmux, but this behavior is a
>      showstopper for
>      > * * *me and
>      > * * *> * * *many
>      > * * *> * * *> * *co-workers that now use screen.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *Thanks a bunch :)
>      > * * *> * * *> * *g.
>      > * * *> * * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 07:55:27AM +0100, Nicholas
>      Marriott
>      > * * *wrote:
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> It wasn't supported in tmux 1.4, try tmux 1.5?
>      > * * *> * * *> * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> If that doesn't work, send me the output of
>      "clear|cat -v"
>      > * * *on
>      > * * *> * * *your
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> box.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:25:40PM -0700, Robin Lee
>      Powell
>      > * * *wrote:
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > Note, by the way, that on other machines "clear"
>      *used*
>      > * * *to do
>      > * * *> * * *the
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > right thing for me; we had a long thread about it
>      a
>      > * * *while back;
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> >
>      [1][2][3][4]http://www.mail-archive.com/tmux-users@...>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > This is a completely new system, and I don't know
>      what
>      > * * *changed.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > It's Fedora 15, running tmux 1.4.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > Suggestions welcome for how to test/debug this,
>      as
>      > * * *usual.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > -Robin
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:15:29PM -0700, Robin
>      Lee
>      > * * *Powell
>      > * * *> * * *wrote:
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > On my current Fedora machine, no, it doesn't.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > If I run "clear", with alternate-screen off, it
>      simply
>      > * * *> * * *destroys
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > what's on the screen; it doesn't go into tmux's
>      > * * *> * * *backscroll/history
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > or anything, it's just *gone*.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > I want this fixed so very, very badly. ;_;
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > It annoys me so much that I may have to switch
>      back to
>      > * * *GNU
>      > * * *> * * *screen,
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > where I never had this problem, despite it
>      being a
>      > * * *worse
>      > * * *> * * *program in
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > basically every other respect.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > -Robin
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:28:09PM +0100,
>      Nicholas
>      > * * *Marriott
>      > * * *> * * *wrote:
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > Don't we do this already? Clear screen
>      scrolls lines
>      > * * *into
>      > * * *> * * *the
>      > * * *> * * *> * *history?
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > Or do you want something else? It isn't very
>      > * * *obvious.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:22:16PM +0200,
>      Fabian
>      > * * *Groffen
>      > * * *> * * *wrote:
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > Hi list,
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > In my quest to get rid of the alternative
>      buffer
>      > * * *feature
>      > * * *> * * *of
>      > * * *> * * *> * *todays
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > terminals, I've configured tmux with:
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > set -g terminal-overrides
>      'xterm*:smcup@...@'
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > set -g alternate-screen off
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > This basically does everything I want,
>      except that
>      > * * *> * * *compared to a
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > non-tmux session (with terminfo settings to
>      remove
>      > * * *smcup
>      > * * *> * * *and
>      > * * *> * * *> * *rmcup
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > capabilities) a "clear" overwrites the
>      existing
>      > * * *contents
>      > * * *> * * *of the
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > terminal. E.g. when I run Vim in tmux, I
>      lose the
>      > * * *> * * *information on
>      > * * *> * * *> * *my
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > screen, whereas outside it isn't. The \E[2J
>      > * * *sequence
>      > * * *> * * *triggers a
>      > * * *> * * *> * *full
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > clear screen, and the attached patch
>      changes the
>      > * * *> * * *behaviour for
>      > * * *> * * *> * *that
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > sequence in the tty_cmd_clearscreen
>      function not
>      > * * *to
>      > * * *> * * *overwrite,
>      > * * *> * * *> * *but
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > rather add empty lines to make the terminal
>      clean.
>      > * * *This
>      > * * *> * * *is only
>      > * * *> * * *> * *done
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > when alternate-screen is set to off, when
>      this
>      > * * *behaviour
>      > * * *> * * *makes
>      > * * *> * * *> * *sense.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > Please consider the attached patch.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > --
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > Fabian Groffen
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > Gentoo on a different level
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > # HG changeset patch
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > # User Fabian Groffen <grobian@...>
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > # Date 1314042382 -7200
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > # Node ID
>      1b455a85ed6ca5e6aeea23a7152bffcc902966b3
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > # Parent
>      051fdc014dc5bc730e4b0eb380af8b09938dd9b8
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > tty_cmd_clearscreen: don't overwrite the
>      buffer if
>      > * * *> * * *> * *alternate-screen=off
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > If the alternative-screen isn't used,
>      overwriting
>      > * * *the
>      > * * *> * * *buffer
>      > * * *> * * *> * *contents
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > loses the information that the user
>      probably
>      > * * *wanted to
>      > * * *> * * *retain
>      > * * *> * * *> * *(hence no
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > alternate-screen). Instead, write enough
>      newlines
>      > * * *to
>      > * * *> * * *clear the
>      > * * *> * * *> * *screen
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > and reset the cursor, such that we retain
>      all
>      > * * *information
>      > * * *> * * *that
>      > * * *> * * *> * *was on
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > the screen before the clear.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > For example: having ls output and starting
>      Vim
>      > * * *won't
>      > * * *> * * *overwrite
>      > * * *> * * *> * *the ls
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > output, but show the output including the
>      vim
>      > * * *invocation.
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > diff -r 051fdc014dc5 -r 1b455a85ed6c tty.c
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > --- a/tty.c Mon Aug 22 20:14:55 2011 +0200
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > +++ b/tty.c Mon Aug 22 21:46:22 2011 +0200
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > @@ -899,24 +899,32 @@
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > tty_reset(tty);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - tty_region_pane(tty, ctx, 0,
>      screen_size_y(s) -
>      > * * *1);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - tty_cursor_pane(tty, ctx, 0, 0);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + if
>      (options_get_number(&wp->window->options,
>      > * * *> * * *> * *"alternate-screen")) {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty_region_pane(tty, ctx, 0,
>      screen_size_y(s) -
>      > * * *1);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty_cursor_pane(tty, ctx, 0, 0);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - if (wp->xoff == 0 && screen_size_x(s) >=
>      tty->sx
>      > * * *&&
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - tty_term_has(tty->term, TTYC_EL)) {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - for (i = 0; i < screen_size_y(s); i++) {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - tty_putcode(tty, TTYC_EL);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - if (i != screen_size_y(s) - 1) {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - tty_emulate_repeat(tty, TTYC_CUD,
>      TTYC_CUD1, 1);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - tty->cy++;
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + if (wp->xoff == 0 && screen_size_x(s) >=
>      tty->sx
>      > * * *&&
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty_term_has(tty->term, TTYC_EL)) {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + for (i = 0; i < screen_size_y(s); i++) {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty_putcode(tty, TTYC_EL);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + if (i != screen_size_y(s) - 1) {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty_emulate_repeat(tty, TTYC_CUD,
>      TTYC_CUD1, 1);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty->cy++;
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + }
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + }
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + } else {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + for (j = 0; j < screen_size_y(s); j++) {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty_cursor_pane(tty, ctx, 0, j);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + for (i = 0; i < screen_size_x(s); i++)
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty_putc(tty, ' ');
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > }
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > }
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > } else {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - for (j = 0; j < screen_size_y(s); j++) {
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - tty_cursor_pane(tty, ctx, 0, j);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - for (i = 0; i < screen_size_x(s); i++)
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - tty_putc(tty, ' ');
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > - }
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + /* make sure we don't overwrite buffer
>      contents,
>      > * * *move
>      > * * *> * * *down */
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + for (j = 0; j < screen_size_y(s); j++)
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty_putc(tty, '\n');
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty_region_pane(tty, ctx, 0,
>      screen_size_y(s) -
>      > * * *1);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > + tty_cursor_pane(tty, ctx, 0, 0);
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > }
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > > }
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> * *> > > > >
>      > * * *> * * *> *
>      > * * *> * *
>      > * *
>      
> ***------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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