Hi Suresh,

Very good thoughts. 

After reading your mail, I just pondered over it.

Personally to me, I am already feeling satisfaction :) for getting 
the co-operation of so many people and for starting the field 
activities too.

Coming to general thinking also, we do the things, especially when it 
comes to social work, we are so excited and enthused and when we do 
not see what we anticipate, we really feel discouraged, depressed and 
feel like 'Is it all necessary?', 'Can't we use this effort on more 
work?'. This is but natural.

But everywhere it would be the same, for any project. Coming to 
Raju's case and Asma's case, it was not so easy. With respect to 
Sireesha's case, there is really no words to describe the efforts of 
Krishna garu. Only because he is committed for the cause, he executed 
it till the end. I am sure he would be in touch with Sireesha and 
would be knowing her well-being. So whatever be the case, it is not 
easy. As Murali opined, we can get/see immediate results in these 
cases. 

Today in Andhrajyothi, I read about Mr. Vinay Akula who is working in 
villages and is helping the Micro-finance projects for villagers. He 
has to face stern opposition and even assaults on him. If we backup, 
then we cannot go ahead in any project. I do not mean, we shouldn't 
discuss. I only mean we should discuss on how we can overcome the 
initial depressions and how we can win the trust of the people.

Raghu, no problem. Discuss in the monthly meeting. As Murali and 
Sowmya will be following mails, they can add this topic too to the 
agenda.

Thank you.

 
--- In [email protected], suresh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Murali & the medical camp team, 
>    
>     First let me tell you , you guys have done an incredible job. 
It is one thing to donate money with just a click on the internet and 
it is something incredible to actually go out on the field and 
volunteer your time and effort.
>    
>     This act of selflessness will only motivate, encourage, 
inspire, invigorate, rekindle, renergize .......... i'm at a loss of 
words 
>    
>     Practially speaking , whats the satisfaction. Do the people 
trust us for what we are doing ? This is our challenge to win their 
hearts , alright, atleast win their trust. The ultimate goal is to 
help them help themselves :-)
>    
>   cheers & keep up the good work !!!
>     
>      
> divyapryga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>           Interesting thoughts from Murali. Very practical view of 
the whole
> scenario. Agree on all u wrote and the thought base more so 
actually.
> 
> Prasanthi's reply is good reasoning. 
> 
> I think this is one of those projects where we cannot see a steady
> timely progress or immediate results. We have to keep doing it so 
tht
> ppl get a more serious idea of what we are trying to do - if we 
decide
> to go ahead that is.
> 
> Now that we have the school authorities help, some other medical
> groups coming in...and also some medical students joining in doing 
it
> part of their curriculum...some costs n overheads shud cutdown right
> here. 
> 
> Coming to utilising resources to 100% and also Muralis' point on
> really doubting if ppl will come back....well..I think this is a
> chance u take here if u wish to continue on this project. This is 
not
> like other projects where we know for sure the results as in Rajus' 
or
> sireeshas' case.
> 
> I would suggest u think of options to motivate these ppl more.
> Also...I think perhaps twice a month is what we shud do initially 
than
> every week. The idea being to give some time for patients on using
> medicines n see some results (though I agree it takes more time for
> these to work compared to allopathy) and on the other hand people 
will
> also sink in the idea of these camps. Once in three weeks again 
would
> be a bit too long I think.
> 
> Are u writing down names of these patients n briefly their 
illnesses?
> I think I remember such mention in one of the related mails. This is
> how u r keeping track of patients returning I think??? 
> 
> School authorities supporting this Project will add a positive n
> friendly neighbour impact...since local residents there know the
> school officials already.
> 
> If even after another three to four camps things remain the
> same...then....things will need a revision n debate/discussion on 
what
> /when/why next. 
> 
> Btw....Moderators do take opinion mails positively. Infact we've
> always encouraged people to speak out their thoughts loud n clear. 
If
> accepting analysis emails positively more so means saying we agree 
to
> all thats in those mails..then I think we are not on the same lines.
> We will respect ur thoughts and other's thoughts aswell..and based 
on
> what majority of members feel after discussions, reach a decision.
> This is but a healthy positive approach from us Moderators....and I
> hope all the members here agree and feel the same on what we try and
> do. All these hundreds of mails that go to and fro on a subject &
> discussions that u can see on going...are but evaluations...and let 
me
> assure u Krishna...we believe in ur belief that evaluation is 
indeed a
> best practice to do things more effectively :)
> 
> -Divya
> 
> Oh btw..on a more lighter side...fiiinally we have a looong mail 
from
> Murali Mohan garu aswell :P Makes me feel sooo good for a change :)
> 
> 
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> 
> --- In [email protected],
> "webdesigningexpert"<webdesigners@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Dear Murali Mohan ,
> > 
> > Well said [=D>] . Good analysis.
> > 
> > This sort of analysis is very good for group if moderators take it
> > positively.
> > 
> > I always believe that evaluation is the best practice to do 
things more
> > effectively.
> > 
> > Coming to the point you mentioned, Dr. Sundar Raj is a very good 
doctor.
> > His way of treatment is '"Ayurvedic". The styles of Ayurvedic and
> > Homeopathy take some time to cure comparing to any other 
medicine. But
> > the results will be more accurate and perminant. There are so many
> > solutions available in Ayurvedic Medicine were there is no 
solution in
> > other treatment.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Krishna
> > 
> > 9247180489
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], murali mohan <tmmohant@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > dear friends ,
> > > good afternooon to u all .
> > >
> > > sorry for sending a huge mail .. pls read it at ur leisure ...
> > >
> > > as u all know, we on the behalf of MAD conducted two medical 
camps at
> > karmik nagar, yusufguda with the help of ayurvedic doctors(some 
of them
> > are also part of MAD) and some of the volunteers (MAD members). I 
have
> > attended both the camps.
> > >
> > > My observations are :
> > >
> > > (1) Nearly 150 people from karmik nagar attended the camp 
conducted on
> > 11th June n told/shared their health related probs. medicines were
> > prescribed and also given to them on the spot.
> > >
> > > (2)We told them that we will be visiting them the next sunday 
(18th
> > june)and requested them to come again sothat we will know the
> > satus/condition of their health.
> > > If the medicines given to them improves their health 
condition/solves
> > the prob completely ....it is well and good. if not, the doctors 
team
> > thought of prescribing n giving new medicines.
> > >
> > > (3)On 18th june, we were there at the camp on-time and we 
personally
> > went to almost each and every tent (there are more than 150 such 
tents
> > in which they live) and requested/invited them to come and tell 
us the
> > status. Neither the people who
> > > attended on 11th nor the new people from the same area turn up. 
I dont
> > know the reason behind it (there are 2 possibilities.either 
completely
> > cured or the condition is same as it was b4 using the medicines).
> > >
> > > (4)One person out of 150 (who attennded on 11th) came on 18th 
again
> > and took new medicines.This same person told us (when I was with 
doctor
> > Sundar Raj) that there is no improvement at all (might be bcos of 
the
> > problem that he has, is not that simple or
> > > medicines have no influence on it).The rest of the people who 
attended
> > on 18th are all new and are from diff location(nearby).
> > >
> > > From the above points, I guess, even if we conduct the camp on 
coming
> > sunday , none of those who attended the last 2 camps will attend 
the new
> > camp.
> > >
> > > Now the question is ..
> > >
> > > what did we achieve by conducting the camps?
> > > Just distributing the medicines is our motto? I dont think so...
> > >
> > > We must get the satisfaction to the core which we have got in 
the
> > medical related cases that we dealt, like raju's case, asthma 
child case
> > ,sirisha's case and even the medical camp that we conducted (I 
have been
> > a part of each and every case in one way or the other).
> > >
> > > For medical camps, we spent time of more than 100 hrs (more 
than ten
> > people, 5 hours per head per camp), money(spent on miscellaneous
> > things),medicines(some of them are free and some of them are 
paid) ...
> > did we get the satisfaction? a big NO
> > > from my side ..
> > >
> > > The things should be done in a result oriented way which is not 
the
> > case with these medical camps.
> > >
> > > Unless the patients attend the next immediate camp (this is 
what our
> > minimum expectation ...but didnt meet it, inspite of our visit to 
almost
> > each and every tent) and tell us their views (which is alomst 
impossible
> > from my perspective based on
> > > past experience), whatever we did and we are planning to do will
> > simply go waste
> > > (boodidhalO pOsina panneeru) .
> > >
> > >
> > > I think ,this is the time we should have a PAUSE and think a 
while b4
> > doing any thing further in this issue.I do agree that these 
medical
> > camps require less money and reach (people get benefit are) is 
more. But
> > where is the satisfaction? Do we know the result ?
> > >
> > > I have discussed the issue with my friend karthik(he attended 
both the
> > camps) and he too expressed the same views as of mine. And better 
to
> > discuss this in the forth coming meeting.
> > >
> > > Should we stop doing this and concentrate on what we are good at
> > (taking cases and dealing successfully..(ofcourse needs dedicated
> > persons ..again a big challenge)? or should we try any new ways of
> > handling this same issue, instead of going and conducting the 
camps so
> > blindly as we did ...
> > >
> > > We should think of doing the things in a concrete way where we 
can
> > utilise the resources 100% and get the fullest satisfaction ... 
so ur
> > ideas are welcome for doing the things in a better and focussed 
way ..
> > >
> > > Murali Mohan T
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically 
different.
> > Just radically better.
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
>          
> 
> 
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