Many thoughts that JP wrote are what went thru my mind...except the
senior citizens part. I was too sleepy to jot them down @ 1am in such
detail I think...bad of me.

Yes no bank gives a homeloan. And none at 100%. 80-85% is what they
usually provide us with...and we have to comeup with the rest.

These are big numbers we are talking about here. Given the current
interest rates of 8-9% the amount that we wud be paying every month
against mortgage will itself come upto 25000/-.  Then the maintenance
and salaries to staff and regular day to day expenses and all this.
Plus the initial downpayments what about that? 3 lacs or something for
down and closing - if someone again takes a personal loan against
it..then the monthly payments again.

Buying a school in general is a very exciting idea and healthy idea
aswell actually...but...at this cost....mmm.....we are getting
ourselves into a vicious circle of expenses. 

I agree with all JP wrote. This is lot of food for thought. And like
prasanthi said...if all want to do this as a drill and as a mock
exercise...no harm I guess.

-Divya

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In [email protected], "Lakshmi Prasanthi Uppalapati"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
> 
> Today I am very busy in office and returned just now. Also the
connection is
> not good and so I couldn't browse any site. I only received office
mails.
> Thats it.
> 
> Coming to the school idea, there are quite a good number of
questions when I
> write the mail, I have a big case study with me (without answers and
it is
> just like a plan to work on) --- A feasibility study.
> 
> I will work on it and post to all of you. We must be very clear cut with
> respect to our goals and ideas with respect to this project. I will post
> what I am anticipating/visualising.
> 
> Go through it and then come up with your points/counters etc.,
> 
> It doesn't mean that we can embark right now. It is just a
mock-exercise on
> how we go about projects, how we access, how keen are we with
respect to our
> goals, how professional are we in strategy etc., etc.,
> 
> One thing is sure: No bank agrees to give a home loan for a school.
Also no
> bank will give 100% amount.
> 
> Anyway let me come up with my views. Let us see. (Even if it gets
sold also
> ... no probs.).  This is not a life and death issue for us. This is
> motivating us or letting us think ahead in our direction. A sort of
fake it
> to make it :)
> 
> On 7/26/06, Jayaprakash Chilumula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Some quick thoughts...
> >
> > Is it recognized?
> > Is it aided?
> > If so, how many positions?
> > Is 30K/month income before expenses or after?
> > --> That would lead to several other interesting questions - left to
> > the reader as an exercise.
> >
> > I don't think banks would give home loans to someone for a school.
> > What can be done is - The cost has to be split - cost of house and
> > cost of the *school*. Each of these needs to be evaluated
> > independently, that would make it easier to assess. Most likely, it
> > might be something like 15 lakhs for house and 8 lakhs for school. If
> > so, people need to come up with 8 lakhs. Besides, home loans are not
> > 100% (i could be wrong here), you will have to come up with at least
> > one lakh for the house too.
> >
> > Alternatively, you can just buy the school for 8 lakhs and take
> > something for rent, which is most likely cheaper.
> >
> > Far more importantly - question the motives!
> > If it is profitable, why is he selling it?
> > Talk to some students, parents of some students, if possible, one or
> > two teachers. Each would give a subset of information.
> >
> > Finally, what/whose problem does that school solve?
> >
> > If it is for teaching kids from slum areas in addition to the current
> > kids, mostly from middle-class, they might not send their kids to your
> > school.
> >
> > If the aim is to teach kids from slum areas - is this the best way to
> > allocate resources?
> >
> > You have to evaluate this really hard, look at all the numbers and be
> > fairly confident that this is indeed going to make a profit. I don't
> > know anything about schools, but you can talk to my dad (who started a
> > school or two) if you are really interested in going ahead with this.
> >
> > Also, talk to retired people. Some retired people are in the mood to
> > do something good for the country now and you can tap into those
> > resources. Like managing a school and such. However, be careful! Most
> > old people are very dogmatic in their thinking and methods and might
> > become more of a liability than an asset. In one way they can be
> > helpful - is information and getting things done in Govt offices, for
> > example, licenses, permits and such. They have a pretty good
> > understanding of the underlying bribe-receiving structures.
> >
> > You need someone very good with numbers to be able to tell that that
> > school is indeed making a profit. That is where some of them can help
> > you. The seller would most certainly say that it is making a profit.
> > Otherwise, who'd buy it?
> >
> > If you learn how to use the retired people intelligently - you can add
> > a lot of man-power. It consumes some resources though. Old people want
> > people to listen to their stories, their *bravado*, adventures and
> > such and it requires patient people willing to listen to them hours on
> > end. Of course, not all of them are like that, but a significant
> > majority are.
> >
> > My 23 paisa on this - No. It has a lot of dependencies and variables
> > and will be a tremendous resource hog. Take a look at
> > http://www.goodnewsindia.com. They have a somewhat comprehensive
> > compilation of commited people who've been working their entire lives.
> > That would give you some ideas and also people to contact, people with
> > decades of experience.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> > JP.
> >
> > --- In
[email protected]<tomakeadifference%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "ulprasanthi"
> >
> > <prasanthi.uppalapati@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sale - School in Jeedimetla with 350 students
> > > - Mr. mohan rajasekharuni
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A good running school with 350 students in Jeedimetla, Apuroopa
Colony
> > > with 200 yards place and infrastructure is for sale. Interested
> > > parties may contact the following phone number
> > >
> > > MOHAN : 98662 43656
> > >
> > > Rate : 23 lakhs. Negotiable.
> > >
> > > Income from School is around Rs.30000/- per month
> > >
> > > --- In
[email protected]<tomakeadifference%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Lakshmi Prasanthi
> > > Uppalapati" <prasanthi.uppalapati@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sarvantaryaami :)
> > > >
> > > > In fact I have been waiting for a mail from you and I did get it.
> > > >
> > > > We need not ask anyone for the address/details of the person
and we
> > > can just
> > > > knock you:) Feel like killing youuuuuuuuuu.
> > > >
> > > > Good to know about JP. I did go through 5 blogs. I see lot of fire
> > > (Aavesam
> > > > to be precise). Based on your email, with such a life partner
> > > sharing his
> > > > ideology, he can do much, as he is planning, in the future.
> > > >
> > > > I still feel we can't jump as such for any bigger projects.
Two days
> > > back I
> > > > saw a classified in telugupeople.com about a school which is worth
> > > Rs. 23
> > > > lakhs (negotiable) and is earning Rs. 30k/ month.
> > > >
> > > > --------------------------
> > > > Sale - School in Jeedimetla with 350 students
> > > > - Mr. mohan rajasekharuni
> > > >
> > > > A good running school with 350 students in Jeedimetla, Apuroopa
> > > Colony with 200 yards place and infrastructure is for sale.
Interested
> > > parties may contact the following phone number
> > > >
> > > > MOHAN : 98662 43656
> > > >
> > > > Rate : 23 lakhs. Negotiable.
> > > >
> > > > Income from School is around Rs.30000/- per month
> > > >
> > > > -----------------------------
> > > >
> > > > I got a thought like if we can buy the school and teach the
children
> > > near by areas (slum) free of cost
> > > > and get fees from other regular students. I feel like this is not
> > > the right
> > > > time again. Also my thoughts on education are something different.
> > > But we
> > > > cannot change the system. We have to use it in a best way.
> > > >
> > > > One of my ideas is to guide/teach/train the
> > > villagers/downtrodden/beggars
> > > > etc., some skills/vocational course and then market them. We
act like
> > > > entreprenuers but we will use the money for the development of it
> > only.
> > > >
> > > > (The annual income of beggars in Mumbai is Rs. 180 crores ---
> > > Today's news
> > > > item)
> > > >
> > > > We need more committed volunteers and more experience and more
time
> > > to do
> > > > that. What I personally feel is we need to be settled in our lives
> > > (not only
> > > > with respect to profession but in our personal lives as well).
Most
> > > of the
> > > > people say that we will busy with our personal lives if we get
> > > married. But
> > > > what I feel is, we can work with much vigour and enthusiasm as
we work
> > > > together and support each other. Ofcourse ideologies also must
> > > match. When
> > > > it comes to Chandrareddy and Yashoda, they are lucky. Both have
> > similar
> > > > thoughts with respect to doing something for the society.
> > > >
> > > > Let us hope that we grow more in strength with respect to
committed
> > > > volunteers and we can form a strategy on the workable solutions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/25/06, NaChaKi <nachakigroups@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I know Jayaprakash from another of my sixty :-D groups:
> > TeluguBrains
> > > > > Yahoo! Group. So, let me do some introduction to people here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Without his permission, I quote some of his words from the
> > archives of
> > > > > TeluguBrains:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Another project is a common hosting solution for all the NGOs,
> > > charitable
> > > > > orgs, etc."
> > > > >
> > > > > "...about 20 other projects along similar lines - which will go
> > > live in
> > > > > about 6 months)"
> > > > >
> > > > > "I will do my homework, comeup with some concrete *plans* (which
> > > can be
> > > > > remoulded as you want!)... I am a sucker for information and
> > > couldn't resist
> > > > > reading everything posted..."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I came to this point and thought, "Oh, that's not all! I
know more
> > > about
> > > > > this person through his e-mails elsewhere!", and lo, I find
him in
> > > > > TelugusAbroad Yahoo! Group too :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But again, I now didn't find his introduction/relevant
information
> > > there
> > > > > either! I checked a few other groups in vain. :-( So, here I go,
> > > free form,
> > > > > quoting only from my memory:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > His wife's dissertation was (is?) on NGOs in India (AP?). (Now,
> > > JP, where
> > > > > did you write this last part of the info?) There, he also wrote
> > > about his
> > > > > own plans and ideas about NGOs, IIRC.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You now know that all his questions are the results of intense
> > mulling
> > > > > over and discussing and debating at home and outside too!
And, he
> > > also might
> > > > > have read all our messages, or at least he'd ;-), and thus learn
> > > more about
> > > > > the group by himself. His multitasking and project skills
can help
> > > the group
> > > > > too, I believe. A little bit of Googling tells me that he's been
> > > right in
> > > > > the neighboring state for me for a while and that he had been
> > > doing what he
> > > > > can with respect to society for the last few years or more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ...He seems to be throwing pearls here one by one... but I
assure
> > > you, JP
> > > > > sir, that we're ready for the whole garland of it at a time :-)
> > > Seems I
> > > > > already broke some ice here... hope you don't mind.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome aboard,
> > > > > NaChaKi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. 1: An answer to his queries in a followup e-mail...
well, my
> > > version
> > > > > of the answers, rather, after Prasanthi, Divya, Krishna :-), and
> > > Raghu.
> > > > > P.S. 2: I dropped the "gaaru"/"Sree" for his name, since he
seems
> > > younger
> > > > > than me by a year. Hope he'd not mind that. (Am I right, JP,
given
> > > that I am
> > > > > 28?)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > with regards,
> > > > PRASANTHI.
> > > > ----
> > > > When you want something, the whole universe conspires in helping
> > you to
> > > > achieve it.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> with regards,
> PRASANTHI.
> ----
> When you want something, the whole universe conspires in helping you to
> achieve it.
>










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