Divya: Its $20/month here.Its not $10.If you had sent only $10/month in 2006, please send $120 due towards 2006 contribution. :)
Chandra. --- In [email protected], "smilinglavender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello KK :) Another thought provoking mail, specially @ answer of > Santh. Let me try answer some of ur qns: > > > Hyd & Bangalore Chapters have just decided on introducing a membership > fee. Pls ask Prasanthi on effective dates & amounts. > > We have an option where members can choose to donate every month a > fixed amount set by the group (based on an open discussion in the > group on a comfortable number to all) - called Monthly Subscription. > With US members it is 10$ every month, and pretty much all of us have > registered on this basis here. I think it is 500 INR with Hyd and > Bangalore chapters & many active members have registered on this > aswell. Members who have registered under this need not pay the > additional membership fee applicable, unless they choose to. > > We have one treasurer who represents his/her local chapter, and all > the members send out their donations either thru cheques or online > transfers or cash (where applicable) directly to them. In turn these > treasurers forward these amounts into the TMAD bank a/c in Hyd, which > is presently on Prasanthi's name with ICICI since we are an > unregistered group as of now. > > ********************************************************************* > Treasurers: > > Hyd Chapter: Prasanthi as of now, and Suresh Adina will take over the > charge soon. > > Bangalore Chapter: Pavan Pyda > > US Chapter: Chandrareddy Manubothu > ********************************************************************* * > > > Members are open to donate seperately any amount on special cases they > prefer, or just be an active member and donate their services & time, > instead of money - which ever suits them better. When it so happens > that we have a member who has donated some money for a particular case > which we later chose not to takeup, or have found a financial aid for, > or an outside donor or fee waiver, and are left with the member > donated surplus....we contact back the member on what he/she prefers > to be done with the funds. Many choose to leave us the option of using > it on other relevant cases, and inturn when that opportunity comes we > always mail them back informing the same and asking on their approval > again, whenever possible. This way we always make sure that the > person/member who donated knows exactly where his penny is put to > help/use. > > There is no set budget as such for any chapters. We usually only take > up the cases we think we can help within our financial boundaries. We > have referred cases many a time to other organisations aswell, that > have helped in either eliminating the costs totally or partially, > which in turn gives us that financial buffer. However in some special > cases where the patient is totally helpless & without much time on > hand, we have raised the money required for upto 2 lacs, thru frnds n > chat groups and various other sources/means. > > We always discuss and go by the groups' concensus on which case to > help. We also have worked on a guidelines sheet which are set > standard rules on how to approach these cases. US members have worked > on this document, and have forwarded it to Prasanthi for further > review & additions. Once we have a finalised document, we can post it > into the group as a reference chart. However, we always have to > realise that each case is different from the other, and this document > will only be a reference scale, and not set rules we have to follow a > MUST. > > Accounts have been maintained by Prasanthi till now, and soon we will > have the balanced ledgers uploaded online. From now onwards, Mr. > Suresh Adina will be maintaining the accounts of Hyd chapter. I am > unsure if Prasanthi retains the overall accounting rights or > otherwise. Rest assured though, each penny that comes in is always > accounted for. We have the rough balanced cash books already uploaded > into Prasanthi's dokkuface4 yahoo page. (You can get the exact details > from her). We are a transparent group in all ways, and that includes > financial end aswell. All the details are posted then and there thru > emails into the group inbox. Very soon we plan on introducing the > funds page into our website directly that will allow browse funds > inflow and outflow, as well as the balance available. The quickest way > till then on any qns on funds is to just call Prasanthi. > > About 80G, this is the qn for Ratan to answer. He will be the one > helping out with all the paperwork on Groups' registration part, etc. > > Hope I have answered some of ur qns, if not all :) > > Please mail back if I have not been clear on any. > > Oh btw...we always weigh our options on where our penny works best. So > to that end we have followed Santh's wise advise :) > > > -Divya > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Krishna Konakanchi" > <krishna.konakanchi@> wrote: > > > > [ > > Note: This is a general mail. Please read it only when you have time. > > Importance: Low > > ] > > > > Hi Prasanthi garu and all equally active members of this group, > > > > It is an amazing and a much appreciable effort from you people in > > identifying the destitute and helpless even from websites and magazines, > > without avoiding it a single day and then making all efforts to let > people > > (group members) know about them, so that they might get the needed > help. I > > wonder how you are able to attend to so many continuously, more than > wonder, > > I am happy and inspired. God bless you all ! > > > > An average person who has inclination to help others, but with limited > > abilities & determination usually compromises his idealogy often > because of > > hesitation about the possibility of a help to the needed. But once > he/she > > realizes that the help need not be all alone but it can come from a > large > > group with minimal contribution from everyone, he/she might be > willing to > > help and thus also draw some satisfaction from it. If we know what > is in the > > pocket of MAD group, we can think how much can we cater to what. How we > > should spend is ofcourse a different decision. So my ignornace for > now is > > about the following: > > > > 1. Are you collecting some fixed amount every month / once in an > year from > > every member if so, how much? > > > > 2. What is the budget of Hyderabad group alone and similarly other > > sub-groups? > > > > 3. Are you maintaining a seperate bank acc for these purposes? > > > > 4. Is there an easier way to dynamically see the avaialble funds online > > while we spend them on service activities? We should also be able to > > dynamically publish the account in one continuous ledger kind > (atleast by > > end of every day) > > > > 5. Apart from such "membership fund" can some of the members declare > their > > proactive share additionally? If so is it possible to predict the > minimum > > total yearly budget for service activities? What are the modes of > payment? > > > > 6. I heard that 80G is now only for spiritual organizations and not for > > service organizations. So you may want to check about this with a CA. > > > > > > Why am I asking such questions is: > > > > The moment we see a giagantic need for someone, we remember our > pocket and > > our liabilities immediately...This stops us from thinking big... > Instead., > > ideally when we see the case of Janardhan likes on the web site, we > should > > be able to call and assure his mother, "dont worry, we are there to take > > care of him after you. Now live happily and take care of your son > till you > > can..." To say this, we must have a self-sustained "home for > homeless" which > > may also seek some funds from big givers if required. Taking care of > > Janardhan and likes should ideally start well before they can become > alone > > in life. Another way is to join such people in already existing "anadha > > saranalayam" and fund whatever we can for once. Are we prepared to > do such > > things? Or can we take up such things in future? Do we intend to? > > > > Can we come up with a decision chart about types of cases we receive > and our > > supposed action in response, our approach to the needy and such things, > > basically a template of our service line? This way we can avoid > ambiguities > > to some extent and have a organization guideline to quickly decide > on few > > cases without too much debate. A process guideline, a decision analysis > > chart, budgetary information and such things can make MAD function less > > person-dependent. We can evolve such documents over a period of time. > > Otherwise, people sometimes get biased by the moods of debating > participants > > on the group site. [ hope I explained it meaningfully :) ] > > > > May be you are already doing all these and I am not aware...! > > > > > > By the way, today someone came to me and while in our discussions he > told me > > a story as follows: > > > > A famous Santh came to a religious house holder for bhiksha. > Naturally many > > devotees and disciples gathered in that house by evening to have > darshan of > > Santh and listen to his discourse. One of the disciples asked the > adept this > > way: > > > > "Swamiji, is it correct to pay money to the beggars and sadhus wandering > > lazily on the roads, not doing anything. Does not it encourage > laziness and > > hence is a sinful activity...some beggars ask even after their belly is > > full..."? > > > > Swamiji waited for a minute, smiled and said: "No it is not > sinful...because > > you have money and you are ready to give...and he is in need and > asked, so > > you must give. While giving you should not bother about what is he > going to > > make out of that money, whether he deposits it in a SB account or drinks > > with it. You cannot beg, he is begging ... he cannot give and you > can give, > > so what is wrong in giving. Give naturally. Even ants in nature have the > > habit of preserving, so what is wrong if a beggar preserves money > you gave > > for his later life? Hence we should not see about where the money > goes ... > > once we give it, it becomes their money. However, you can always > think of > > best utilization for 'your' money and hence choose the most > deserving person > > and give him." > > > > This story made me think for a while... > > > > People might debate about the answer given by Santh...but unless we are > > collectively clear about what is "correct to us for now", we cannot > reach a > > consensus. That is when we need decision charts and org guidelines. > I will > > leave it open for your thoughts.. hopefully some one can build up on > this. > > > > If not possible for a response now, let this be preserved as a seed > in our > > minds and sprout when the context suits...[provided all this makes > sense] > > > > I am going to Guntur on friday and will be back on 6th... > > > > > > Regards, > > Krishna Konakanchi > > >
