Thanks, Costin.
>From the little I have seen so far, you haven't added much code; at least the
line count is very similar to 3.2.1. You should feel proud of what you have
accomplished so far; IMHO, all code-refactoring and re-design efforts are
worthy, regardless of where it is released. If it's released as Tomcat, and it
seems it will, it will be a big plus.
One question: do you have anything to the effect of a SmokeTest -- meaning a
battery of automatic tests that are passed after the nightly build? Is it what
you call "self-test" in the 3.3 proposal? I think I saw something like that in
the cvs logs, but I'm not quite sure.
So keep it up,
Alex.
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> Hi Alex,
>
> I'm doing nightly builds and source packages at:
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/tomcat/nightly-3.3
>
> Regarding the PMC meeting - it seems all depends on the support and votes
> that a 3.3 release proposal can get.
>
> The main concern ( or at least my understanding of it ) was that 3.3
> doesn't have enough support, and I'm ... well, you can read Jon's and
> Pier's postings so far to get a feeling what kind of person I am.
>
> I'll be posting a release plan this evening, that will be voted - and 3.3
> will happen if enough people are willing to vote it _and_ help make it
> happen.
>
> I'm still working on the plan, but there are 2 big problems to be
> resolved:
>
> 1. Bug fixes. Tomcat 3.3 will be released _only_ if it'll have all the
> known bugs fixed, and at least 3 commiters are willing to help fix further
> bugs.
>
> 2. Code review and documentation. I'm not going to propose a release
> unless and until there is a reasonable amount of documentation (
> architecture and comments ) and enough eyeballs read the code and send
> their comments.
>
> Since this will going to be the last version of 3.x( only major bug fixes
> after - any further development can happen only in revolutions or in
> another place ) it'll have to basically finish the job and achieve the
> goals of tomcat 3.
>
> I can't stress enough how critical it'll be to get your help. Either bugs
> or comments on the code or architecture.
>
> I'll try to get some time off and I'll spend all my free time in the next
> months to make it happen - but regardless of what I do, tomcat 3.3 will
> not happen if you don't help. It doesn't matter how small the bug is -
> what's important is that _you_ help fixing it.
>
> Please don't get involved into any flame - and please ignore Jon and Pier
> - just don't answer to any provocations. For my health I'm going to
> filter them out, since I'm not that good at ignoring.
>
> Costin
> P.S. the other conclusion of the PMC ( as I understand it ) was that I'm a
> bad person that can't be trusted, and all work for 3.2 was done by Craig
> alone ( my apologies to Larry, Henri and Nacho ).
>
> P.P.S. My sincere apologies to Roy and Brian and Hans and Sam and James -
> I said bad things about the PMC ( that I don't trust it and it's one-sided
> ), listening you make me believe there is hope.
>
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I've seen a lot of discussion here on Tomcat 3.3 vs 4.0. Without some
> > knowledge about the inside workings of each version, it's very hard to
> > follow it -- I mean, find out the actual issues behind the "politics" --
> > or the politics behind the actual issues.
> >
> > The article linked by cmanolache, 'Internal Tomcat', is very good IMHO.
> > But then it's all words; there's nothing like studying the way it's
> > implemented.
> >
> > So I was trying to at least take a look at the code and the way it's
> > organized. But the link to the 3.x nightly builds is broken, so no code
> > for 3.3. Do I need CVS to get it? (Don't get used to those weird
> > commands.)
> >
> > And, by the way, has PMC made any important decision about Tomcat 3.3?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> >
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