Hi all, Any body why some tags objects create by jasper is'nt members of page object. Example : for "/examples/jsp/simpletag/foo.jsp" page jasper generate : session = pageContext.getSession(); out = pageContext.getOut(); // HTML // begin [file="/jsp/simpletag/foo.jsp";from=(0,0);to=(6,0)] out.write("<html>\r\n<!--\r\n Copyright (c) 1999 The Apache Software Foundation. All rights \r\n reserved.\r\n-->\r\n<body>\r\n"); // end // HTML // begin [file="/jsp/simpletag/foo.jsp";from=(6,77);to=(11,0)] out.write("\r\n\r\nRadio stations that rock:\r\n\r\n<ul>\r\n"); // end // begin [file="/jsp/simpletag/foo.jsp";from=(11,0);to=(11,45)] /* ---- eg:foo ---- */ examples.FooTag _jspx_th_eg_foo_0 = new examples.FooTag(); _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setPageContext(pageContext); _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setParent(null); _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setAtt1("98.5"); _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setAtt2("92.3"); _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setAtt3("107.7"); try { int _jspx_eval_eg_foo_0 = _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.doStartTag(); if (_jspx_eval_eg_foo_0 != Tag.SKIP_BODY) { try { if (_jspx_eval_eg_foo_0 != Tag.EVAL_BODY_INCLUDE) { out = pageContext.pushBody(); _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setBodyContent((BodyContent) out); } _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.doInitBody(); do { String member = null; member = (String) pageContext.findAttribute("member"); // end // HTML // begin [file="/jsp/simpletag/foo.jsp";from=(11,45);to=(12,4)] out.write("\r\n<li>"); // ----------------------------------------------------------------------- // if you add some embled tag examples.EMBTag _jspx_th_eg_foo_0 = new examples.EMBTag(); ... There's somme problemes : * For iterations tags all of embled tags is re-create for each iterations. * The parent tag can not get some static parameter of children tags. * Is slower Why jasper don't genrate like : public class _0002fjsp_0002fsimpletag_0002ffoo_jsp extends HttpJspBase { examples.FooTag _jspx_th_eg_foo_0 = new examples.FooTag(); examples.EMBTag _jspx_th_eg_foo_1 = new examples.EMBTag(); ...... public final void _jspx_init() throws org.apache.jasper.JasperException { // Static parameter initialisation only, not fooparam="<%= i %>" _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setPageContext(pageContext); _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setParent(null); _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setAtt1("98.5"); _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setAtt2("92.3"); _jspx_th_eg_foo_0.setAtt3("107.7"); _jspx_th_eg_foo_1 = setAtt1("XX") ; } The TLD can descripe static/dynamic attribute. Thank,