funkman     2004/02/26 09:30:01

  Modified:    xdocs-faq tomcatuser.xml
               docs/faq/printer tomcatuser.html
               docs/faq tomcatuser.html
  Log:
  Change wording for the links to good etiquette. The good etiquette
  links were non-tomcat related but users were still emailing those
  authors questions about tomcat.
  
  Added snippet on when to post to tomcat-user vs tomcat-dev
  
  Revision  Changes    Path
  1.3       +56 -10    jakarta-tomcat-site/xdocs-faq/tomcatuser.xml
  
  Index: tomcatuser.xml
  ===================================================================
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-tomcat-site/xdocs-faq/tomcatuser.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- tomcatuser.xml    11 Jul 2003 01:57:39 -0000      1.2
  +++ tomcatuser.xml    26 Feb 2004 17:30:01 -0000      1.3
  @@ -16,7 +16,7 @@
   
   <section name="Preface">
   <p>
  -    This is about the tomcat user list.
  +    This is about the Tomcat user list.
       <a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Subscribe</a>
       and
       <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html";>general information</a>
  @@ -28,16 +28,31 @@
           digest form.
       </a>
   
  -    If you post
  -    to tomcat-user, use
  -    <a href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt";>good etiquette</a>,
  -    <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html";>
  -        ask good questions,
  -    </a>
  -    and use
  -    <a 
href="http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?MailListUserBestPractices";>
  -    Best Practices</a>, and also please read the docs, faqs, readme,
  +
  +    If you post to tomcat-user, use good etiquette, ask good questions,
  +    and use Best Practices, and also please read the docs, faqs, readme,
       and search the archives before asking a question.
  +
  +    <br/><br/>
  +    Here are some links about how to use mailing lists and standard etiquette
  +    in using mailing lists. These links are not Tomcat specific! Please do
  +    not contact the author of these documents with questions.
  +    <ul>
  +      <li>
  +        <a href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt";>
  +          Netiquette Guidelines (RFC 1855)
  +        </a></li>
  +      <li>
  +        <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html";>
  +        How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
  +        </a>
  +      </li>
  +      <li>
  +        <a 
href="http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?MailListUserBestPractices";>
  +            Mailing List Best Practices</a>
  +      </li>
  +    </ul>
  +
   </p>
   </section>
   
  @@ -57,6 +72,14 @@
           </a>
         </li>
   
  +
  +
  +      <li>
  +       <a href="#wheretopost">
  +         Should I post to tomcat-user or tomcat-dev?
  +        </a>
  +      </li>
  +
   <!--
        <li>
          <a href="#connectors">
  @@ -150,6 +173,29 @@
         the moderator has an opportunity to remove you from the list.
     </answer>
   
  +
  +  <question>
  +      <a name="wheretopost">
  +         Should I post to tomcat-user or tomcat-dev?
  +      </a>
  +  </question>
  +  <answer>
  +    tomcat-user is for user based questions for tomcat. That means anyone who is
  +    developing any type of software to be used with tomcat.
  +    <br/><br/>
  +
  +    tomcat-dev is the forum to discuss changes to the Tomcat's source code. If your 
question
  +    is not related to changing the source code as maintained by the tomcat 
committers,
  +    then it does not belong here, it belongs in tomcat-user.
  +
  +    <br/><br/>
  +
  +    If you wish to extend tomcat using your own Valve, Realm, or anything else ... 
those
  +    discussions belong in tomcat-user. You might be using Tomcat's internal API but 
unless
  +    your changes are going back into the official source tree, the question belongs
  +    in tomcat-user.
  +
  +  </answer>
   
   </section>
   
  
  
  
  1.3       +56 -10    jakarta-tomcat-site/docs/faq/printer/tomcatuser.html
  
  Index: tomcatuser.html
  ===================================================================
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-tomcat-site/docs/faq/printer/tomcatuser.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- tomcatuser.html   11 Jul 2003 01:57:39 -0000      1.2
  +++ tomcatuser.html   26 Feb 2004 17:30:01 -0000      1.3
  @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
         Tomcat FAQ

       " align="right" src="../../images/tomcat.gif"></a></td></tr><!--HEADER 
SEPARATOR--><tr><td colspan="2"><hr size="1" noshade=""></td></tr><tr><!--RIGHT SIDE 
MAIN BODY--><td align="left" valign="top" width="80%"><table cellspacing="4" 
width="100%" border="0"><tr><td nowrap="true" valign="top" align="left"><h1>Tomcat 
FAQ</h1><h2>About Tomcat User</h2></td><td nowrap="true" valign="top" 
align="right"><img border="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" height="1" width="1" 
src="../../images/void.gif"></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" 
border="0"><tr><td bgcolor="#525D76"><font face="arial,helvetica.sanserif" 
color="#ffffff"><a 
name="Preface"><strong>Preface</strong></a></font></td></tr><tr><td><blockquote>

   <p>

  -    This is about the tomcat user list.

  +    This is about the Tomcat user list.

       <a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Subscribe</a>

       and

       <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html";>general information</a>

  @@ -17,16 +17,31 @@
           digest form.

       </a>

   

  -    If you post

  -    to tomcat-user, use

  -    <a href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt";>good etiquette</a>,

  -    <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html";>

  -        ask good questions,

  -    </a>

  -    and use

  -    <a 
href="http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?MailListUserBestPractices";>

  -    Best Practices</a>, and also please read the docs, faqs, readme,

  +

  +    If you post to tomcat-user, use good etiquette, ask good questions,

  +    and use Best Practices, and also please read the docs, faqs, readme,

       and search the archives before asking a question.

  +

  +    <br><br>

  +    Here are some links about how to use mailing lists and standard etiquette

  +    in using mailing lists. These links are not Tomcat specific! Please do

  +    not contact the author of these documents with questions.

  +    <ul>

  +      <li>

  +        <a href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt";>

  +          Netiquette Guidelines (RFC 1855)

  +        </a></li>

  +      <li>

  +        <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html";>

  +        How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

  +        </a>

  +      </li>

  +      <li>

  +        <a 
href="http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?MailListUserBestPractices";>

  +            Mailing List Best Practices</a>

  +      </li>

  +    </ul>

  +

   </p>

   </blockquote></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" 
border="0"><tr><td bgcolor="#525D76"><font face="arial,helvetica.sanserif" 
color="#ffffff"><a 
name="Questions"><strong>Questions</strong></a></font></td></tr><tr><td><blockquote>

     <ul>

  @@ -45,6 +60,14 @@
   

   

   

  +      <li>

  +       <a href="#wheretopost">

  +         Should I post to tomcat-user or tomcat-dev?

  +        </a>

  +      </li>

  +

  +

  +

     </ul>

   </blockquote></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" 
border="0"><tr><td bgcolor="#525D76"><font face="arial,helvetica.sanserif" 
color="#ffffff"><a 
name="Answers"><strong>Answers</strong></a></font></td></tr><tr><td><blockquote>

   

  @@ -121,6 +144,29 @@
         the moderator has an opportunity to remove you from the list.

     </div><br>

   

  +

  +  <b style="font-size: larger">

  +      <a name="wheretopost">

  +         Should I post to tomcat-user or tomcat-dev?

  +      </a>

  +  </b>

  +  <div style="padding-left : 20px;">

  +    tomcat-user is for user based questions for tomcat. That means anyone who is

  +    developing any type of software to be used with tomcat.

  +    <br><br>

  +

  +    tomcat-dev is the forum to discuss changes to the Tomcat's source code. If your 
question

  +    is not related to changing the source code as maintained by the tomcat 
committers,

  +    then it does not belong here, it belongs in tomcat-user.

  +

  +    <br><br>

  +

  +    If you wish to extend tomcat using your own Valve, Realm, or anything else ... 
those

  +    discussions belong in tomcat-user. You might be using Tomcat's internal API but 
unless

  +    your changes are going back into the official source tree, the question belongs

  +    in tomcat-user.

  +

  +  </div><br>

   

   </blockquote></td></tr></table></td></tr><!--FOOTER SEPARATOR--><tr><td 
colspan="2"><hr size="1" noshade=""></td></tr><!--PAGE FOOTER--><tr><td 
colspan="2"><div align="center"><font size="-1" color="#525D76"><em>

           Copyright &copy; 1999-2003, Apache Software Foundation

  
  
  
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  --- tomcatuser.html   26 Jul 2003 12:00:21 -0000      1.4
  +++ tomcatuser.html   26 Feb 2004 17:30:01 -0000      1.5
  @@ -1,128 +1,174 @@
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charset=iso-8859-1"><title>Tomcat FAQ - About Tomcat User</title><meta value="Tim 
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SEPARATOR--><tr><td colspan="2"><hr size="1" noshade=""></td></tr><tr><!--LEFT SIDE 
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  -    <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html";>general information</a>
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  -    It is a high volume list! For those who can't handle that kind of traffic,
  -    you can also get it in
  -    <a href="[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  -        digest form.
  -    </a>
  -
  -    If you post
  -    to tomcat-user, use
  -    <a href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt";>good etiquette</a>,
  -    <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html";>
  -        ask good questions,
  -    </a>
  -    and use
  -    <a 
href="http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?MailListUserBestPractices";>
  -    Best Practices</a>, and also please read the docs, faqs, readme,
  -    and search the archives before asking a question.
  -</p>
  -</blockquote></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" 
border="0"><tr><td bgcolor="#525D76"><font face="arial,helvetica.sanserif" 
color="#ffffff"><a 
name="Questions"><strong>Questions</strong></a></font></td></tr><tr><td><blockquote>
  -  <ul>
  -
  -     <li>
  -       <a href="#why">
  -         Why won't people answer my question?
  -       </a>
  -     </li>
  -
  -     <li>
  -       <a href="#unsubscribe">
  -         How do I unsubscribe?
  -        </a>
  -      </li>
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  -
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  -  </ul>
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color="#ffffff"><a 
name="Answers"><strong>Answers</strong></a></font></td></tr><tr><td><blockquote>
  -
  -    <b style="font-size: larger">
  -      <a name="why">
  -               Why won't people answer my question?
  -      </a>
  -    </b>
  -    <div style="padding-left : 20px;">
  -        It could be one of any of the following answers:
  -         <ul>
  -            <li>No one knows the answer.</li>
  -            <li>Everyone is ignoring you.</li>
  -            <li>The person  who knows the answer hasn't gotten around to
  -                it yet.</li>
  -             <li>The person  who knows the answer hasn't gotten around to
  -                it yet. (So please don't post the same question
  -                    multiple times)</li>
  -          </ul>
  -
  -         In other words - you get what you pay for. If you phrase
  -         you question intelligently and not make your question annoying,
  -         your quality of support will
  -         probably better than any commercial help support.
  -         <br><br>
  -
  -         In particular, some readers on the tomcat-user list have been
  -         known to automatically ignore
  -         a message which meets any of the following criteria:
  -            (You have been warned)
  -         <ul>
  -            <li> "help" in the subject line
  -                (we know you need help by writing in the first place)</li>
  -            <li> plz or please in the subject line.
  -                We already know you need help.</li>
  -            <li> ALL CAPS IN THE SUBJECT LINE. (Sorry for anyone
  -                emailing from a mainframe)</li>
  -            <li> Do not place !! (more than 2!) in the subject line.
  -                 The number of exclamation points has no relation to anyone's
  -                 interest in answering the question. In fact - it has a higher
  -                 chance at being ignored.
  -            </li>
  -            <li> Your e-mail has a return receipt. You don't need to know
  -                I got the message.</li>
  -            <li> Select posters who have consistently displayed no
  -                desire to research before posting a question.
  -            </li>
  -         </ul>
  -  </div><br>
  -
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  -  <b style="font-size: larger">
  -      <a name="unsubscribe">
  -         How do I unsubscribe?
  -      </a>
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  -      If you are unable to unsubscribe, it could be due to your e-mail system
  -      mangling your e-mail address or you have subscribed under an alias.
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  -      <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&m=104190907020995&w=2";>
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  -      </a> will help.
  -
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cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td bgcolor="#525D76"><font 
face="arial,helvetica.sanserif" color="#ffffff"><a 
name="Preface"><strong>Preface</strong></a></font></td></tr><tr><td><blockquote>

  +<p>

  +    This is about the Tomcat user list.

  +    <a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Subscribe</a>

  +    and

  +    <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html";>general information</a>

  +    can be found

  +    <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html";>here</a>.

  +    It is a high volume list! For those who can't handle that kind of traffic,

  +    you can also get it in

  +    <a href="[EMAIL PROTECTED]">

  +        digest form.

  +    </a>

  +

  +

  +    If you post to tomcat-user, use good etiquette, ask good questions,

  +    and use Best Practices, and also please read the docs, faqs, readme,

  +    and search the archives before asking a question.

  +

  +    <br><br>

  +    Here are some links about how to use mailing lists and standard etiquette

  +    in using mailing lists. These links are not Tomcat specific! Please do

  +    not contact the author of these documents with questions.

  +    <ul>

  +      <li>

  +        <a href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt";>

  +          Netiquette Guidelines (RFC 1855)

  +        </a></li>

  +      <li>

  +        <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html";>

  +        How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

  +        </a>

  +      </li>

  +      <li>

  +        <a 
href="http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?MailListUserBestPractices";>

  +            Mailing List Best Practices</a>

  +      </li>

  +    </ul>

  +

  +</p>

  +</blockquote></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" 
border="0"><tr><td bgcolor="#525D76"><font face="arial,helvetica.sanserif" 
color="#ffffff"><a 
name="Questions"><strong>Questions</strong></a></font></td></tr><tr><td><blockquote>

  +  <ul>

  +

  +     <li>

  +       <a href="#why">

  +         Why won't people answer my question?

  +       </a>

  +     </li>

  +

  +     <li>

  +       <a href="#unsubscribe">

  +         How do I unsubscribe?

  +        </a>

  +      </li>

  +

  +

  +

  +      <li>

  +       <a href="#wheretopost">

  +         Should I post to tomcat-user or tomcat-dev?

  +        </a>

  +      </li>

  +

  +

  +

  +  </ul>

  +</blockquote></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" 
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  +

  +    <b style="font-size: larger">

  +      <a name="why">

  +               Why won't people answer my question?

  +      </a>

  +    </b>

  +    <div style="padding-left : 20px;">

  +        It could be one of any of the following answers:

  +         <ul>

  +            <li>No one knows the answer.</li>

  +            <li>Everyone is ignoring you.</li>

  +            <li>The person  who knows the answer hasn't gotten around to

  +                it yet.</li>

  +             <li>The person  who knows the answer hasn't gotten around to

  +                it yet. (So please don't post the same question

  +                    multiple times)</li>

  +          </ul>

  +

  +         In other words - you get what you pay for. If you phrase

  +         you question intelligently and not make your question annoying,

  +         your quality of support will

  +         probably better than any commercial help support.

  +         <br><br>

  +

  +         In particular, some readers on the tomcat-user list have been

  +         known to automatically ignore

  +         a message which meets any of the following criteria:

  +            (You have been warned)

  +         <ul>

  +            <li> "help" in the subject line

  +                (we know you need help by writing in the first place)</li>

  +            <li> plz or please in the subject line.

  +                We already know you need help.</li>

  +            <li> ALL CAPS IN THE SUBJECT LINE. (Sorry for anyone

  +                emailing from a mainframe)</li>

  +            <li> Do not place !! (more than 2!) in the subject line.

  +                 The number of exclamation points has no relation to anyone's

  +                 interest in answering the question. In fact - it has a higher

  +                 chance at being ignored.

  +            </li>

  +            <li> Your e-mail has a return receipt. You don't need to know

  +                I got the message.</li>

  +            <li> Select posters who have consistently displayed no

  +                desire to research before posting a question.

  +            </li>

  +         </ul>

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  +  <b style="font-size: larger">

  +      <a name="wheretopost">

  +         Should I post to tomcat-user or tomcat-dev?

  +      </a>

  +  </b>

  +  <div style="padding-left : 20px;">

  +    tomcat-user is for user based questions for tomcat. That means anyone who is

  +    developing any type of software to be used with tomcat.

  +    <br><br>

  +

  +    tomcat-dev is the forum to discuss changes to the Tomcat's source code. If your 
question

  +    is not related to changing the source code as maintained by the tomcat 
committers,

  +    then it does not belong here, it belongs in tomcat-user.

  +

  +    <br><br>

  +

  +    If you wish to extend tomcat using your own Valve, Realm, or anything else ... 
those

  +    discussions belong in tomcat-user. You might be using Tomcat's internal API but 
unless

  +    your changes are going back into the official source tree, the question belongs

  +    in tomcat-user.

  +

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