can't wait to read more FUD articles proclaiming they're the savor of the world. I think I'll keep plugging along until the rubber hits the tires and some real traction is observed. peter
Remy Maucherat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I saw this nice post on the Geronimo list, and I feel insulted. > Two full-blown articles on the topic is forthcoming in the coming weeks. I want >to take the time and care necessary to convey my various points in the most > positive and constructive way I can. I'll send a link to this list and to the > Tomcat list when it's published. and JBoss does not embed Tomcat. They bolt it onto the side of their server--this is not the same thing. If they say it is, they are either misleading you or they are honestly wrong. I know enough about Marketecture to safely say this. I've also read their source code, and I know how it works. Again, watch for the articles ; ) As far as "competitive advantages" go, once people get a taste of Geronimo's configuration and distribution features, once they understand what IoC-3 Components and GBeans buy them, they're never going to want to develop for anything else. Order-of-magnitude performance gains not included, I think the JBoss server is in serious trouble and I would hate to be holding ten million dollars of debt on my shoulders riding in *that* boat. The configuration advantages alone will challenge the way we think about application development. Yeah, they set the bar really high around here. I got a couple of nosebleeds trying to get over it. I'm sure the JBoss guys'll start seeing similar problems when they sit down to implement JSR-77. I feel inflamatory articles, FUD, and nonsense is a very unproductive way to interact (given your latest fine article on the ASF, I see you have a habit of taking people hostage using that method), and, given that, my answer to any of your proposals is very simple: no (aka, -1). As for the apparently marvellous G experience, we'll see and let the market decide. Quite frankly, you sound like an Avalon fan turned bad. Rémy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.