Hi, Another option for now is to setup a SourceForge project for this. I'd be glad to link to it from our docs/FAQs/wiki pages. You (two) could be its committers, and we could work together to get additional contributors setup there.
There has to be a critical mass... Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Garrison, Meg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:18 AM >To: Tomcat Developers List >Subject: RE: contrib directory > >>>why not put it in the NetBeans repository where you're already setup? > >I'm only setup to commit to the /core module, which is not where the >Tomcat files are found. > >Actually, we started out in the direction of contributing our Tomcat >changes to NetBeans, see >http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=49420 > >And we contributed patches to NetBeans to start Tomcat on OpenVMS and a >catalina.com to be placed in the tomcat bin directory that NetBeans >ships. The NetBeans folks told us they'd prefer we make the launcher >contributions to Tomcat, since that's where they belong...which is why I >opened >http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=31499 > >against Tomcat. > > >Meg >-----Original Message----- >From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:53 AM >To: Tomcat Developers List >Subject: RE: contrib directory > > >Hi, >That actually gave me an idea: why not put it in the NetBeans repository >where you're already setup? > >In Apache, there needs to be a long-demonstrated background of >contributions before getting commit privileges. We have different >processes in this area than NetBeans and some of the other open-source >collaborations. > >Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Garrison, Meg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:03 AM >>To: Tomcat Developers List >>Subject: RE: contrib directory >> >>Hi Leslie, >> >>I'm also willing to maintain the HP OpenVMS scripts. Rather than >create >>a whole new project (tomcat-contrib) maybe it would be possible for the > >>Tomcat folks to grant us commit access to a single module/folder in >>their CVS library (a contrib folder of some sort). Then they wouldn't >>have to worry about committing our changes, etc.. If we misbehave and >>don't follow their rules, then they have the option to "boot us out". >>That's how the NetBeans project does it. For example, I have commit >>powers in the core module, which is where the OpenVMS launcher lives, >>but no other. Our needs for NetBeans (as yours, I'm sure) require that > >>the default Tomcat distribution contain our launcher somewhere...it >>doesn't have to be in /bin. >> >>Any other ideas? >> >>Meg >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Leslie Kishalmi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:29 PM >>To: Shapira, Yoav >>Cc: Tomcat Developers List; Garrison, Meg >>Subject: Re: contrib directory >> >>Dear all, >> >> I'm willing to spend some of my limited free time to collect, >organize >>and maintain these contributed code. >>However, it is very unlikely that I would be ever a committer on this >>project with my OS/2 launchers. >>So, as Yoav said, we could find an other committer. Or we could create >>an other project something like tomcat-contrib where we maintain our >>code. >> >>Best regards, >>Leslie Kishalmi >> >>Shapira, Yoav wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>>Yeah, it's gone for now. The reason is that the maintenance aspect is > >>>too hard for the long term. While I don't doubt the quality of you >(or >> >>>anyone else's) work, nothing is perfect. It is inevitable that the >>>scripts will need work. Even if you stay on top of it and keep >>>submitting patches, someone will have to keep checking for them and >>>applying them. >>> >>>I'm not interested in doing that work, and other committers apparently > >>>aren't interested enough to even comment on what an appropriate place >>>in CVS might be for these contributions. So I took them out for now. >>> >>>That's not to say they're gone forever. I can see a couple of >possible >> >>>solutions, and that's why I'm doing this thread on tomcat-dev as >>>opposed to just replying to you personally. >>> >>>One approach is what I'm doing now: contributed stuff is owned by >>>authors (like you) who post it wherever they want (hp.com, personal >web >> >>>sites, whatever), and we link to it from our FAQ and/or wiki pages. >>>This approach solves the long-term maintenance concerns. >>> >>>If this was a one-time effort, I would have done it and we'd be all >set >> >>>by now. But it's not, and I just don't have the bandwidth to work it >>>;( Another approach is for someone else with commit privileges to say >>>they're interested and do what they think is appropriate. That can >>>happen at any time, I wouldn't stand in their way obviously, as I'm >not >> >>>principally objecting to these contributions. I just don't have the >>>bandwidth to deal with them at this point. >>> >>>So this issue is not dead. It's just not going to be in 5.0.30/5.5.4. >>>We might also want to raise it on tomcat-user to see if people have >>>other creative approaches to solving this. >>> >>> >>> >>>>Are you really going to take the contrib directory out? I was just >>>>about to make a contribution to you via PayPal as a thank you... >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Thank you ;) >>> >>>Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com >>> >>> >>> >>>This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business >>communication, and may contain information that is confidential, >>proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the >>individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, >>printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) >>intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your >>computer system and notify the sender. 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